Re-Enrolled
Welcome to the "Re-Enrolled" podcast, where Carlos and Joel embark on a journey of lifelong learning. Join us as we delve into a wide array of topics, exploring diverse knowledge from literature and films to poems and current events. Each week, we bring you insightful discussions, thoughtful analyses, and engaging conversations that inspire curiosity and a love for learning. Tune in and rediscover the joy of continuous education with us. Whether you're a bookworm, a movie buff, or simply someone who loves to learn, "Re-Enrolled" is your go-to podcast for enriching your mind and broadening your horizons.
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What happens when an extrovert who sometimes dreams of introversion meets a blend of both worlds? Join us on this inaugural episode of the "Re-enrolled" podcast as we, Joel Valenzuela and Carlos Ramirez, take you on a journey from our roots in Tucson, Arizona, and Ciudad Obregón, Sonora, to Joels current adventures in Mexico City and life as an adult in Tucson for Carlos. Get to know us beyond the surface as we share our personal stories, our dynamic friendship, and the experiences that shaped us into who we are today. From soccer fields to shared travels, our bond has grown through humor and camaraderie, setting the stage for many engaging conversations to come.
Ever wondered how two best friends navigate living together in the hustle and bustle of New York? We'll recount our days in New York, filled with practical lessons on independence, financial management, and even the woes of parking! Discover our professional journeys, hobbies, and the creative sparks that led us to start this podcast. From Joels dream of wildlife photography for National Geographic to Carlos's love for social gatherings and reading, our passions are as diverse as our stories. Expect a tapestry of humor, nostalgia, and personal revelations that highlight the essence of our friendship.
What quirky facts and dream destinations lie beneath the surface? Our rapid-fire question session is bound to keep you entertained with insights into our favorite foods, travel aspirations, and unique quirks. Whether it's reminiscing about our favorite TV shows like "Sherlock Holmes" and "Friends" or sharing amusing midnight confessions, this episode offers a rich blend of laughter, personal anecdotes, and the excitement of starting this podcast journey together. Tune in, and get ready to feel like part of our extended circle of friends!
introduce us to the world man.
Speaker 3:Hey, what's up? World, all 14 people listening to us. Welcome back to another episode of re-enrolled. Uh, hopefully you've been enjoying the past episodes. You might be like who are these guys? Or you know exactly who you are.
Speaker 3:That's why you're listening, because you're a family or friends but for those who don't know who we are, this little episode carlos and I have kind of prepared like a little introductory to us, not too deep right, just to kind of give some uh, uh. What's it called like a hero story? What's it called like the hero stories of batman? What's the, what's the word?
Speaker 2:the journey, no, the oh my gosh, come on origin story.
Speaker 3:Origin story, yes, the origin story to re-enroll this podcast that you're currently listening to on your run, on your car ride, wherever you're at. So, yeah, so we're gonna get straight to it like ask, we have like questions that we've kind of prepared to hopefully give some more insight to whoever's listening. So strap on and hopefully you enjoy and get to know us a little bit better. So who are we? So my name is Jorge Valenzuela, um, that means nothing to whoever's listening to you, I guess. But, um, I'm originally from Tucson, arizona. That's where Carlos and I met, and we'll briefly talk about that a little bit later too.
Speaker 3:But I was born and raised. I'm originally from Tucson, arizona. That's where Carlos and I met, and we'll briefly talk about that a little bit later too. But I was born and raised. I'm a little desert rat. I was born and raised there in Tucson, um, but now I live in Mexico city. It's been kind of a little crazy route how we got here. But yeah, that's who I am. I guess that's a little gist, a little bit of who I am. I guess Carlos can share a little bit who he is.
Speaker 2:Well, my name is a little too long to say out in public, but let's stick with Carlos Ramirez. And I mean, I was born in Ciudad Obregón, sonora, which is, if you know the city, you know where it's at. If not you're probably not going to know much about it.
Speaker 3:It's kind of in the middle, I mean not in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 1:It's towards the end of sonora, don't?
Speaker 3:it's a popular city you think? So yeah, I mean obregon is more known than abuja.
Speaker 2:No, no, it's like smaller but abuja is more known, though Navajo is more famous. It's infamous Arroba has good fame, but it's more famous.
Speaker 3:It is so for those who don't know Navajo usually is the butt of the joke, for like Mexican jokes, for whatever reason, you can Google that. You can Google it.
Speaker 2:And even though I was born there, I probably most of my memories are here in tucson as well, and this is where joel and I have met um. But yeah, I mean that's that's the intro, like that's kind of it's one of those tough questions that they ask you at interviews. Who are you actually I was listening to something that mentioned an interesting way to answering that question is answer that question without mentioning what you do or where you were born and we literally just do that we literally just said we were born.
Speaker 2:But I mean, it is who we are. It is a part of who we are, but who?
Speaker 3:who are you? I guess, who am I? I, I think, if someone would describe me, if someone would describe yeah, I think I hope that I try to be a joyous person, a happy person. Yeah, I try to be grateful for whatever.
Speaker 2:I adventurous, a little crazy a little hint, a little crazy a little spice of loquito, you know am I wrong about this, about you like? Yeah we'll talk about this later, but we did live like nine months together, ten months together in new york yeah but your personality right now like joy is happy, it kind of like you kind of break into that during the day, like you are not, you don't wake up that way.
Speaker 1:Like you wake up.
Speaker 2:Serious, I got no friends I mean, maybe now it's different because yeah're married now but maybe back then in New York.
Speaker 1:I would just observe you in the morning. You seem like you were a little upset, but then you walk out.
Speaker 2:you walk out the door and you're like happy, Hoyt is back.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think Lynette describes it that I get energy from people. Oh energy from people that like, because I'm so extroverted that when I'm around more people like it feeds me or something.
Speaker 2:That's interesting, because my takeaway was that there's a little bit of an introvert in you, but maybe I'm wrong. I mean, lynette would know you a lot better than me no, I mean, I joked around with her like lynette.
Speaker 3:uh, you know, I always joke around that I'm an introverted person and she's like, no, you're an introverted person. And she's like, no, you're not Get out of here. But she's like you're describing something you wish you were and I'm like I think she's probably right. I wish I was a little bit more introverted. I think everyone's both. At times of the day. I just lean towards being extroverted. But yeah, I think that, como, como todos, like if we have a moment of just peace and tranquility by yourself, you enjoy it, but I do feed off of people, for sure, I think yeah, okay actually that's.
Speaker 2:That's a better way to understand it than than what I had in my mind how would you are you, I mean you're would you consider yourself an introvert?
Speaker 3:then?
Speaker 2:I. I think I'm like a mix of both. Honestly, I think I'm an extrovert around friends, which maybe doesn't even count right, because in order to be an extrovert you need to be an extrovert around the public, around people that you probably don't know very much, and I don't know if that's me. I think I can talk more and be a little more friendly and outgoing with people I know and I like them, them, they like me, kind of a thing. But when it's strangers it doesn't come out as easily.
Speaker 2:But I could be wrong I'm kind of probably in the in between, like, like most of us like most people yeah like a range, you know yeah so how do we meet what's, what's your story?
Speaker 3:or how do we meet here's?
Speaker 2:my story and actually it's a cry for help if anyone's out there listening and wants to help me because here's the thing I think I've been a victim. I think Jorge has been growing a victim.
Speaker 1:Grooming me, grooming me, grooming me, grooming, grooming me. Is that much worse?
Speaker 2:I mean that's pretty bad too, but I think he's been grooming me since we met for this purpose.
Speaker 2:This moment For like a podcast or something else. That's like a creative project. I don't know, because when we met it was through mutual friends and our love for soccer yeah. But I mean it's not like it was a love for soccer, it's more like your love for soccer. I like soccer. I mean it's not like it was a love for soccer, it's more like your love for soccer. I like soccer, but soccer's never liked me, like it's kind of a one-sided love.
Speaker 3:Whatever you actually, you played for high school. No, you actually played like in an organized fashion Left bench. You didn't play left bench you didn't play that bench you started a state game.
Speaker 2:I played a little bit, but it not really as much, yeah, but anyways, back to my grooming story, or yeah, grooming grooming I'm confused now. Um, I was like a lot more. We could say shy, we could say introvert probably would have never even considered like we don't get paid to do this, but if we got paid I probably wouldn't have done it back then like it wasn't in the radar of possibilities and what I would do.
Speaker 2:But here we are, you know, after a couple years of friendship, yeah, traveling and yeah, talking a mistakes both ways, went for it both ways.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, and I agree, I agree with I mean, I don't agree that I've been grooming him. I think that I think how can I say I don't know I always been like in regards to friends, like I love genuine people like who they are. They're not trying to fake this personality of whatever right, whatever that personality is. And I think the first thing that drawed me to Carlos was that he was so confident in who he was, like he wasn't jealous of others because they were loud or whatever. Like he was just this is who I am and like you're not. Like I'm confident and comfortable in my own skin. And I think part of me was like intrigued because, like I, his way of being, his personality was so opposite of my personality, like I felt like I wanted to get to his level of the word, not carelessness, cause you care right, you care what people think, you're not just out there doing whatever you want, but like almost confidence of like just owning who you are.
Speaker 3:Cause I think there was a an etapa of my life, there was a phase of my life where I was more self-aware of people's opinions and I wanted to get away from that and I think I saw Carlos as like a guide, hope, like how does he do it? Like what is he doing? But every time I tried to like get in his brain, like ask him questions. Uh guys, like he just rejection, like you know, you know that girl, sally, in high school, who rejected you 82 times, carlos did it 87 times for me, whatever.
Speaker 1:That is totally not true.
Speaker 2:No, it's true. Honestly, that goes back to what Lynette says about you, that you wanted to be or you would. You wish you were an introvert, but you're not, because I think when I met you that was kind of like you, like you were the life of the party. We can say it out loud Like Joel loves, like social gatherings, at least back then.
Speaker 2:Like dancing and partying, but you didn't want to be Like you wanted to. You know what it was. I think you had like an internal conflict where you party meant people thought you were less serious, or less yeah, respectable in some way, which I don't think that's true, but I think maybe that.
Speaker 2:That was kind of your dilemma, and then you were looking for ways to be, you know, maybe more quiet and more different, which, yeah, we just learned from each other, I guess, which is the beginning of our relationship, right? Yeah from each other. I learned from you. Yeah, I think I became a little more like you in some ways, without losing who I am and maybe you have as well.
Speaker 3:No, I, I completely agree. I do think that, looking back, like retrospectively, like I felt like I had built this like box of who I was and everyone saw me as that person in that box and I think I got tired of it I was just like that doesn't resonate with me anymore and I felt like every time I tried to escape it, people pulled me back into that box. Like no, you're the entertainment, you're the. I'm like, I'm tired, like yeah me están pagando.
Speaker 2:Get out of here, you know, have you seen that video of a kid I don't know if it's a little boy or little girl in a competition? It a kid, or I don't know if it's a little boy or little girl in a competition. It's like a dance competition, but they're like crying but sad, but also dancing.
Speaker 1:Have you seen that? I don't think so. It's really funny because that was me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's you just crying like at parties and dancing and being social, but not wanting to be like yeah yeah, it was such an interesting phase because there was for sure like I'm not negating that I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, once I be that became my like joke. That that's who I was I feel like people didn't think I was. There was more depth in me. I feel like they saw surface level and that's who it is like just surface level, and that frustrated me, because I'm like, bro, I'm more than just a dancing monkey, you know like I can do other things, like you're right, I am a good dancer and I am good looking, but there's more to me get out of here.
Speaker 1:Get out of here like I want to be loved for what's inside I don't want to be a piece of meat okay, carlos, I didn't want to be a piece of meat I'm just joking.
Speaker 2:So that was jorge's dilemma back in the day and that's how we met yeah yeah, and, and through that friendship you know we would meet up every weekend.
Speaker 3:I play soccer, they've come over to my house play fifa. That friendship just kept growing and then eventually we started traveling together, and then there was moments where you try to start businesses together and yeah you know, we would always bounce ideas off of each other's.
Speaker 3:I think both of us were creative in that sense that they would like to find a maybe not a common way out of this system right, I think, everyone working nine to five and we're willing to do it. But we're like there has to be something else and like both of us kind of try to find that something else.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's funny you say that because I think even long before I was agreeing to a podcast and recording this and putting this out in public, like maybe I would have been okay with being kind of like a creative consultant, like come up to me with an A. I want to start this podcast, I want to do this creative project and I'm like giving you advice and asking you questions or you know things that you could do or not do, and I think that that's been a long time that we have done that.
Speaker 2:Even before I was comfortable doing it myself. We were always talking about those kind of things together, which which was like something that we did a lot, especially when we traveled together.
Speaker 3:Yeah, some good times, and I mean and throughout the episodes that we'll have in the future, like no doubt, stories will pop up of things we've done together so some stories will not pop up, cannot pop up yeah
Speaker 1:we have a we have a.
Speaker 3:We have a little friend group uh, that no doubt, we have enough blackmail to just burn each other to the ground, and we always used to joke that, yeah, it's just like a domino effect, that if someone starts it, we're all going down, we're all just gonna get destroyed. That seems a little dramatic, honestly. It's not that bad, yeah, yeah, okay. So what are your interests and hobbies, carlos?
Speaker 2:so I put down a couple of things, but you know, maybe we can talk about different ones, because these are kind of the main ones. But I think we've also kind of changed over the years and started liking different things. But we kind of got to know each other through soccer and we played a lot of soccer. We even did a lot of hiking together, which is something I don't do enough anymore, but I really enjoy it and I should probably yeah, we did, we did do a lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we did a lot of hiking, a lot of um, personally, whenever I can get a chance to read, I do enjoy doing that.
Speaker 2:I know it sounds like a pretty cliche answer but this type of podcast right yeah, but it is true, like right now it's a rainy day, I would love to be able to just read a couple hours and that's something that I enjoy doing, but the main thing probably just talking with friends. You know, whenever I'm not doing anything that I have to do and I have time to do like a hobby or something that interests me, you know, just going somewhere for like a social gathering, but not like a big social gathering, just something with a couple of friends. I really enjoy that till this day. How about you?
Speaker 3:I think, man man, it's hard to top that. But I mean those who might know I'm into photography carlos is aware of you know I've been doing that for a long time. I think the way that hobby has kind of transformed and into different things is how I maintain it lively, but I do love photography specifically.
Speaker 3:Um, if I had to an ideal job, I'd want, like national geographic, to pay me like 20 grand to go well, not 20 grand but like like hey, go take a picture of this bear in alaska, right, and like they cover all my expenses and my job is just to get there. Go take a picture of this bear in alaska, right, and like they cover all my expenses and my job is just to get there and take a picture. That would be like ideal. I would love that. It'd be so much fun it's almost like it's almost like no, I'm just throwing a number, I mean, I'm down national, I'm down, national, geographic no, but I like it's almost.
Speaker 3:I describe it as like hunting, like you know, a hunter ghost talk of prey, but with my camera instead of a gun. You know, like I want to just wait and be patient. And then, and you know it's funny, I haven't done like really animal photography at all. I think really, but it is something that attracts me. I just do more landscapes, more than more than animals.
Speaker 2:But that'd be something I would love to do. I mean, I think that's a huge hobby for you, like, maybe it's a little more than a hobby for you. Photography but it's something that you enjoy doing a lot yeah, it's your main hobby about spending money. Man, that's like your main thing, no, I'm not.
Speaker 3:Hey guys, I'm broke, I'm broke, no, no have you seen that meme of like that mom is like hey, how much change do you have? And the kid's like not anymore. I made some bad financial decisions, that's me. That's literally me. I'm going to try to find a clip of that meme and just include it in the clip.
Speaker 1:That is funny.
Speaker 3:I am a big sports fan. I think I do enjoy sports, as you can see, if you guys have been telling by, those who watch the YouTube or clips.
Speaker 2:I am a Chicago fan, but every team except the White Sox, the Bears, chicago Cubs, that is something really cool about you that, no matter how busy your life gets, you can always just say the scores for the games, like you always know, like somehow you just memorize stuff like the transfers and this guy is going over here like I love soccer, but I don't think I've ever had that much love for it to keep up with that. Yeah, honestly it's bad.
Speaker 3:I mean there's moments where I probably joked with you. But like I invest like my mornings or my nights when I'm gonna go to bed and just check up on news and stuff and I honestly I have to be more balanced with it. I always joke around with lynette like, oh, if I start like a youtube, I almost like to justify the time that I'm investing in it but at that point I have like 82 000 projects like it's too much, I can't do that much.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I do enjoy it.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I think it's something that, like I got, we mentioned earlier, like we used to do as friends and I just kept doing it. You know, I just enjoy it. I will say I'm trying to be better now, more with being balanced, but still I do love sports. I think the sport I watch the most is soccer, but I do do watch highlights for football, american football, baseball and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:When I have time Because baseball there's so many games. I don't watch even 1% of all those games. But yeah, I'm trying to think of anything else. I love swimming, I love. I think that's a um that I wish I could do more of, like it's true, I totally forgot about that.
Speaker 2:You do like you love to swim, like you don't just love watching swimming, like you actually like no, no, I love swimming like doing laps, just being in the water.
Speaker 3:I don't have to like, I'm not trying to say like I'm this crazy, crazy athlete. As you can tell, by my body, I'm not. But, I do enjoy swimming, like just being in the water floating. I don't know. There's something really peaceful about it, yeah, so that's a little bit about me. I mean, I guess we can being me, I can just keep talking. But that's a little bit about myself.
Speaker 2:Just like a light summary, yeah exactly.
Speaker 3:We chose a couple favorite books or movies or podcasts. Some quickfire questions. What are some books, movies?
Speaker 2:Well, when it comes to podcasts, let's start with that. I like two different genres. I like either funny or informative. If I'm listening to a podcast, I want to be laughing or learning something, so I listened to a. I don't listen to everyone like. I don't think I have someone that I listen to every single episode, especially because a lot of podcasters release a lot um, but I listen to lex friedman and joe rogan pretty often, um, that's like two podcasters that I find myself going back to and I think I just like the concept.
Speaker 2:You know, they invite interesting people and have interesting conversations you know they do that consistently and, and you know, some pretty cool things are going to happen and I think that's. Maybe we got some form of inspiration by them, but not really. And as far as favorite books, I think we've gone over some of them and we're going to continue going some other ones. Uh, the little prince is probably up there in the list. The great gatsby um, those are the two main ones that I probably like keep going back to as my favorite, but obviously there's a lot of other ones that I have interest in how about you?
Speaker 3:um podcast. I I think I relate to to you what you're saying. I think that learning or being, or laughing, I've also done a couple of I'm not sure I mean I'm not sure they're considered podcasts, but like almost like um audio books but, but like those, like the ones that have like sound effects I forget there's a specific genre Like, yeah, it's almost like they. You have to imagine the story, but they add a lot of sound effects. It's just really good. I've enjoyed a couple of that type of audio stuff.
Speaker 3:In regards to actual podcasts, there's a podcast called Curiosity Daily that I consume. It's not every day, every other day, but what's cool about how they do it? I totally support them. They do 10-minute episodes. And they always just share like three different facts, and then back with you know like an explanation with links to the articles where they base that information. But, just like you learn, like random stuff. I liked it Like just to get myself thinking.
Speaker 3:And in regards to like funny, there's this uh podcast in spanish called bizarro um it just makes, and it makes me laugh just because what they do is they analyze just funny news articles like weird stuff that okay, I don't know, like florida man marries alligator, and they try to intellectualize that.
Speaker 1:And I try to make it like why, is this happening Like?
Speaker 3:what problem do we have in society? But it makes me laugh the type of articles they cover. Yeah, and my creative other one is like I like it at the UI. I kill that podcast a lot too, which is the same concept that you're saying, basically with Joe Rogan, but in spanish. Yeah, he's having interesting conversation with different artists or just scientists or different people, and I like learning through that.
Speaker 3:So truly cool and yeah, so that's podcasts. I didn't write any books, but in regards to like shows, I love sherlock holmes. You, you got me onto suits. You're the one that told me about that show.
Speaker 2:I like that show I told you before it was cool. Now everyone watches that show. I think I know you did. You did. You told me, like I don't know what, five years ago or something um.
Speaker 3:And then I like a lot of uh, like seinfeld, um friends, like uh what office the
Speaker 2:office oh, the office is awesome that is, if you ask me, like, what's one show you wish you could re-watch, I think that'd be it for me, like like you mean like brand new, like we watch it brand new, like the same show, right re-watch it. It's as if it's my first time. Yeah, I would love to watch that show.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no offices. So what's interesting? I didn't watch until until I got married. I don't know if it was just like the culture. I was around. You know, my family didn't really watch English shows yeah.
Speaker 3:And like, I never watched Seinfeld until I got married. The only show I did watch, like single or Mia, was Friends and even Friends. I never watched like season one to season nine, like and even friends. I never watched like season one to season nine, like, oh, I watched like a couple episodes here and there I knew who the characters were. Yeah, I didn't know the linear story that was being built that over that arc, so to speak. I wasn't getting it. So, yeah, those are a couple shows I like. I think it's, yeah, maybe a basic answer because I feel like a lot of people like those shows too, but hey, I like them too I think I'm saving some of those because I have heard great things about seinfeld dude watch side bro seinfeld is so good bro I totally recommend it I.
Speaker 3:I again.
Speaker 2:Lynette is like oh it's funny, and I'm always like sure, but I know it's really good, it's really good, yeah, I think I watched the office during the pandemic, so maybe maybe next pandemic I'll watch Seinfeld.
Speaker 3:Hopefully not Get those negative vibes out of you, bro.
Speaker 1:Next time we're stuck at home for a couple years.
Speaker 3:And that's the thing with having projects and being busy. You have such a small window to really consume, but when?
Speaker 2:you can, can. It's enjoyable. So getting to know us might want to take us back to our professional background. How do you survive in this world? How do?
Speaker 1:you make a living hoy, do you? How do you make it happen?
Speaker 3:um, so I, I, I'm, uh, I have a. I'm one of those like gigs guys. I have multiple little side hustles that I try to manage and it doesn't make me a lot of extra income, but it's something yeah I have, like a couple. You know, I have my my own website for photography, so I do weddings on the side, when they come up, or engagements. So that's one little. It's not my profession every day, but I do it once in a while.
Speaker 3:I also have a sticker business that I sell stickers to different people, whether it's organizations, or I'm trying to get into the boutiques here in mexico city, so hopefully that that can go well. But my actual main source of income is, like I do like graphic design slash, you know photo editorial work and videography work again, it sounds more advanced like I'm not editing movies, you know. I'm editing social media content. I'm editing um voiceover podcasts, you know things like that for a dealership in New York, a dealership group. It's a really big dealership group.
Speaker 3:So yeah, that's kind of what I do and I do that remotely, that work, and I'm very grateful that I have it. It's very grateful for that company that allows me to do that and hopefully I'm bringing value to them and that's kind of what I do I do I mean, you always find something to work in.
Speaker 2:This is. It's kind of incredible, like even before, like when, when we went from tucson, we'll get to this, but when, we traveled from tucson to new york before we even got there. You had a job Before we even arrived.
Speaker 3:You know what? Okay, this is my little advice, if I have any to give. I had this mentality of almost like a ladder, and you probably heard it before. I'm just probably regurgitating advice here. Yeah, but I didn't get so focused on.
Speaker 3:The perfect job for me is like get whatever to pay my bills and then, as I'm working, look for a better job and once I have an interview and it's looking good, then give my two weeks notice to my other job and move to like like a ladder. I just try to keep moving forward, with respect, right, like I'm not like trying to backstab any business, um my employers, but more so just being mindful, like, okay, this is. And like, if you're working at a chocolate store, no one thinks this is your end goal, right like no one. No one's like this guy's trying to be here for the next 25 years, you know like no one thinks that. So so, yeah, I think that's what I've, what I've always done. I've I've been willing to take lower paying jobs with the hope that I have more control over my time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and hopefully allows me to do more so that's kind of my little way, of how I've gotten thus far, and hopefully I can keep jumping ladders, whether it is with the same company or something else.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's your system, man, that's the way you do it, it's your signature move.
Speaker 3:Hey, just to add, but this weird system has helped us out. Guav and you, we worked for the same company at some point. We did At some point. We both had the same job in new york.
Speaker 2:We worked for lint and automotive photography yeah and then you added the little doctor, like transcribing thing that's just pretty cool interpreting, yeah, yeah anyway, sorry, sorry so my background is kind of maybe similar once we got to new york but before, like my first job right after high school, after a life of crime was working for working for a legal office for an attorney and actually it's kind of a funny story, but he wasn't a criminal attorney, like with criminal law, but he was a criminal attorney like they did some pretty weird stuff in that office, like I think, yeah, like documents would arrive for clients and they wouldn't give it to them if they haven't paid, which I think is a crime. They would falsify signatures, they would do all. I don't feel bad saying this because he ended up going to jail, like I ended up finding no way.
Speaker 2:After I left like long after I left I went online and I think I was looking for his name. I was going to call him about like being a reference for a future job or something. Turns out he had actually did some time like he went to prison because someone complained and they investigated and they found out that they was doing some weird stuff.
Speaker 2:I think I could be wrong. Either he was suspended or he lost his license. Like I wouldn't be surprised if the my first job, like the attorney that I worked for, can't practice law anymore, so that was my first job and then, after that question do you think this is like?
Speaker 3:do you think that was like just a random circumstance, or do you think this? That practice is more common than we think?
Speaker 2:in regards to the law world, I mean, it left me a pretty bad taste in my mouth. Yeah, to be honest with you, but it was a pretty small office I think, if you're talking about like a bigger office that's more organized, there's more procedures and rules in place. Maybe you can avoid some of the stuff that happened here, because I don't think all of it was malice. I don't think they were purposefully doing bad things. There were some of that too, but I think it was lack of organization in some ways as well right like they just lost some stuff.
Speaker 2:They didn't do their due diligence, didn't proofread the documents well enough and ended up you know costing. I mean sadly. It costed people their freedom. You know that they could probably end up in prison longer than they should have, or they ended up leaving the country because they couldn't get the the immigration status they needed. So that was my first job, but I'm glad you left bro, you think?
Speaker 3:it affected you? You think you could have, like if you would have stayed, would it have affected you like I don't know, like legally I don't think so I mean, I wasn't like I wasn't the one making any decisions in there, so I don't think it would have.
Speaker 2:Um, okay, good, good, yeah, it's interesting so that was my first job then, I ended up getting my real estate license and going to work for a local real estate company here in tucson. I worked there for a couple of years in property management. So basically, tenants, when you deal with tenants, collect rent, try to collect some debt. That was an interesting story when I started calling people to pay debt. I mean you learn a lot very quickly when you start calling people for money, dang um. But then we did that for a bit and then we ended up going to new york, which maybe we can talk a little bit more about. And then I came back and when I asked for a reference because in new york we did a lot of different jobs like we worked for the dealership you're talking about.
Speaker 2:We worked for a chocolate company and I was a spanish interpreter. Then I came back, I ended up working for that same real estate company again, but in different parts of the business, right, and I was more into the investment side when I came back, buying homes, handling the rehab projects, selling them, you know, fixing them up, all that whole, the whole side of the business, and that's kind of like what I continue to do now. Um, my main source of income is this podcast now. So, as you know, I've been doing a lot of fasting lately because you guys just don't click that like button for some reason.
Speaker 3:Hey, yeah, subscribe guys. We got to feed Carlos Hashtag feed Carlos. Oh man, that's wild, yeah, so Carlos has been my guide because he's so good with his, my guide because he's so good with his. So something to know about Carlos is he is stingy with everything except food. He's willing to ball out. But other than that, my boy is so good with his money, he knows how to handle it, he knows how to save well.
Speaker 3:And I'm the complete opposite. I'm trying to be that, but I'm I'm trying to apply what we've been learning with these books, but he's better at the uh well, the actual practice of it. I'm good with theory, I understand, but I gotta, I gotta, apply. So but yeah, so that's kind of what we do no, no, that's kind of what we do, and we did live together in new york, which is it was a blast like I had such a fun time, we didn't I?
Speaker 2:don't think we ever fought like between the three of us. No, nothing huge. Maybe there was some complaints about me or something like that, but I don't think we ever ended up fighting so maybe I look, maybe I looked at you in the morning. I was like, why is that guy upset he?
Speaker 1:just woke up to give some perspective.
Speaker 3:Uh, some, yeah, some perspective. So, carlos and our friend huab, who now lives in switzerland, we all three moved together from tucson to new york, um, together, and we roomed together and honestly, like we like we were I mean, we were already really good friends back then and but this was a test of our friendship really we're going to see like what's up, you know, like we're a different, like hanging out every weekend to living together, but honestly, like we all I think we all like helped each other out. We were all balanced and whatever little complaints like we all responded. We weren't like, oh, I want to do whatever I want. It was like no, I'm listening, I hear you. My bad, let me fix that. But yeah, I don't know, I had a lot of fun, man, it was, it was cool. I just live with my best friends and it was. It was just so much fun, dude, like I look back with fun it was a lot of that time and also like.
Speaker 3:Another note is that it was like our first, at least you and I. It was our first move out of home, right like yeah, we live with our parents. It was like almost like our college experience, right like yeah, moving out, but I mean hua, but he lived by himself and I mean he lived with his grandparents in, in, in tucson but. But he, you know, his family was in texas during hua at the time. I forget where they were at, but yeah, I mean he had more experience.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was a little bit, a bit more used to being independent, but it was kind of the way you and I learned a bit more. Right, you were some. Yeah, we're kind of independent in some ways, but I mean it changes it when you live completely different yeah, exactly one thing that I hated about new york, and it was a parking situation oh, the parking was annoying every couple of days we would have to walk and park far, and the worst thing about it was it wasn't even like it was our spot, like people probably didn't like it, that we parked there.
Speaker 2:Oh no, no, and the thing is that we we can't damage the grass.
Speaker 3:Remember like we damaged the grass where we were parking. Yeah, so again, some context. We we lived in, uh, again, a really nice man, a really nice man, but we lived in his basement and but he only had two parking spaces available for that rental and that was clarified, you know, in the lease, like we were aware of this. Yeah, we asked him if we, if it was possible to find a solution for the third car. Basically he's like yeah, I mean it's on you guys.
Speaker 3:If you guys want to do that and struggle, it's on you. So, uh, so, yeah, so we I forget what the plan was. I think it was like every, every other, like every day, there's a different person parking far right so basically you had to do it once every two days, correct? Yeah, um, and it wasn't like terrible, like during the summer, it's whatever, but during the winter was when it was the worst, you know, or you had a late shift and you got home like at 10, 30 or something.
Speaker 3:It's freezing. We're from arizona, you know like, and we had to do this long walk of shame, you know like. Oh, but hey, oh, but the view is beautiful, though. That lake, yeah, man, his house is nice right?
Speaker 2:I mean now that it's because, when I was there.
Speaker 1:It wasn't filled. That's that's right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's right so why did we? Why did we start this, carlos? Why do you like? Do we? Do we have a concrete answer for this? I feel like it's kind of like why not, why not start this? I?
Speaker 2:think I mean I could be wrong. Maybe this is between us, but. I think every group of friends always dreams of starting that podcast. You know, whatever it is. It might be a sporting podcast or a different kind, but they just want to start a podcast. I think the reason behind it is you just enjoy talking and you're like this is pretty hilarious. Other people would like to listen and it's not a wrong idea. Most people will never move past that it's more like late at night.
Speaker 3:You're having fun. It dies in a.
Speaker 2:WhatsApp group. It dies before it starts. But, your attitude and my attitude was, or it became, I think, at some point, the attitude of well, let's just see what happens, right. And I think once I got past the I mean I guess I could say embarrassment of putting my thoughts out there yeah you know or words out there, and realized we're not that big of a deal in a way yeah, start.
Speaker 2:I mean I can admit, I can admit in front of everyone, maybe right now it's not that cool, but if we get 100 reps in, 200 reps in, it's gonna be really cool. I think, yeah, right, but it's just like anything, yeah it has been fun.
Speaker 3:It's been fun so, like I've always had the concept of I think I've even shared with you like certain like projects I've had in mind Like I have the idea of one day, if I decided to have a child, like do, like almost like a journal entry for that child, and I thought it would be so cool as a gift to my son or daughter, right?
Speaker 3:so for me, like this type of thing, it's beneficial, it's like almost a gift to myself, like it's, it's fun, like I'm doing something with my you know, really good friend and we're doing the topics we're covering. It's beneficial, we're learning, so yeah, so if I had to put on like the origin story to re-enroll, I think it's has to go back to just our friendship of wanting to try something new. And, um, for those who don't know, I I do have another podcast. It's kind of dead now. I haven't done it's probably it died so.
Speaker 3:I will admit to those who do podcasts where they have guests it's a lot more work. It's so much work to schedule people. Yeah, they have their schedules match when you can record and having entertaining conversations. So even though I love that project, it's still out If you want to check it out.
Speaker 3:I'm here for you. Can you're welcome to check out like the 15 episodes that's there. We had great conversations with different individuals, yeah, but um, anyway. So I've had like a little bit of like that bug of like I had so much fun doing that, like I want to keep doing it, but what's something I can actually consistently do on a weekly basis and I think you and I like I wouldn't say weekly, but for sure biweekly we'll like we'll call each other, just check in and and then we'll talk about oh, you know, anything you've watched lately that you've liked, or a book.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And we just always, I don't know. It just hit me. I'm like, why not just record it? That's why it's not why not? Do this, and that's kind of what happened. We just let's do it you know, yeah, as you can see, we don't have the most high-tech production uh set up. You know, like you're in tucson, I'm in mexico city. Uh, we bought like I don't know what's our, our initial investment with our mics. Like what I forgot? We're like 60 bucks for the mics I don't remember.
Speaker 2:You bought me the stand or you give to me, oh yeah, the stand and I think the mic was like yeah, like 60 bucks you just got headphones, yeah little things here and there, yeah and now that we're making lots of cash. You know, I just got myself some new headphones and laptop like come.
Speaker 2:The come up is coming I guess, little by little, I know, but I think I totally agree with you. I think that's probably why we're having fun, even even though our hopes are high, like we're not gonna say we're selling ourselves short and we hope to to achieve with this. Our expectations are kind of reasonable, right, like our hopes are high, but our expectations are reasonable and you know, not going to lie, just like you, the podcast is for me, so as long as I'm enjoying it, we're going to continue doing it.
Speaker 2:You know we used to talk about, about like books and ideas and courses. All the time. We just didn't record it. And now we're recording it. You know these conversations used to happen regardless. Now, just other people can learn, uh, if they want to join us right, and also think another side reason why I'm doing this is communication is such an important skill, right?
Speaker 2:a lot of people are great communicators when the stakes are low, right, like when they're talking with friends, with family, you know, hanging out, sharing stories. I even have a couple of friends where I'm like man, this guy's a good storyteller, like he, yeah, something that's kind of generic and not very exciting. He makes it exciting, like I would love to go grocery shopping with this guy.
Speaker 2:The way he's telling the story, he's describing this experience like it was life-changing yeah, but then you put him in front of a crowd and he might freeze right. Communicating is not that easy when the sticks are higher, and that's kind of what we're doing. Even though right now we're kind of comfortable recording by ourselves, we understand that potentially a lot of people could be listening to this. Yeah, so that's our crowd and, you know, hopefully we little by little learned the art of communicating more effectively and you know, I think that that's going to be huge for just the skill set to have, but also just enjoying the process, and I mean that and the money that the money that this is making is crazy I know we're.
Speaker 1:We're in the negatives. We're in the negatives, we're in the negatives.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, we are not making anything.
Speaker 1:Carlos alluded to that as a joke.
Speaker 3:You're welcome to donate. We'll take it, but no. No, and that's another thing that I was happy, that we chose a subject matter that we enjoyed. Right, because a lot of projects fail because the motive is a financial motive motive. Right, like it's a great idea, but it's hard to sustain a great idea if you don't love it, you know. Yeah, so in our case, like, of course, like if this can somehow turn into something awesome.
Speaker 3:Well, you know, get like hey, I would love it yeah but I think the reason we I think this can be sustainable is because we truly just enjoy the conversation, the engaging conversations we're this can be sustainable is because we truly just enjoy the conversation, the engaging conversations we're going to be having and hopefully someone else relates to it. You know, and honestly, like we've had I think this is episode seven, eight, with this one. Now we're currently recording, um, I think, just in this past eight episodes. Hopefully our listeners can see progress. I think we're getting more comfortable, we're getting more natural with each other and and almost disconnecting, that there's someone listening, almost just like, yeah, we're just talking about the subject matter and it's being super enjoyable.
Speaker 2:It sounds like such a we could say cliche thing. People say right, you have to love what you do. You have to enjoy what you're doing and the reality is it doesn't make it less difficult, right, like setting up the time to prepare for these podcasts and scheduling it, and you know separating, you know an hour or two, when we do record every week, that that doesn't mean it's not challenging yeah, but if you're not enjoying it.
Speaker 2:You're not, you're gonna stop doing it eventually, right? And I think that's really why enjoying what you're doing kind of makes a difference, because then you can persevere, like even if, okay, this part is not enjoyable or this part is challenging, you can continue doing it, and I think that's probably something that I've learned over the course of the last two or three months that we've been recording, and you know doing this consistently is.
Speaker 2:I do enjoy it. I do enjoy the process, right? You know, doing this consistently is I do enjoy it. I do enjoy the process, right.
Speaker 3:It forces me to set up the time to focus on this and you know it's been a really nice experience yeah, and hopefully, you know, more people relate to it because you know, like, when, yeah, like, I guess the question is, what we want to achieve is just, honestly, self-growth, and I think it'd be cool just to have, like this library of conversations of, yeah, you know, of what we've read right, like, uh, like almost like a progress report of our own progress.
Speaker 2:Sorry for being redundant there, but well what is alluding to here for everyone that's listening is that he's gonna have children pretty soon oh my god, he wasn't to have this as a you know kind of a live starter pack.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I'm dear Juanito. No, no, I just think it's. I think this can be almost like, again, it's a different version of when the camera was invented, right, like you're capturing memories with, with the device, and I think to a certain extent, I uh, this can be that right, but, um, via audio, of of just fun times, and I think I think most people it's hard to relive those fun times.
Speaker 3:I think of you know older generations, when they were there wasn't a camera. They have fond memories but they probably can't remember the exact details, right, of, yeah, what happened, who was there, and even though they enjoyed it in the moment, yeah, I, I bet that if they could somehow relive it watch, listen they would you know. Like you know, like, hopefully, no, none of us, I don't die tomorrow, but yeah, the beauty of things like this is that you know you could look back and and watch these things if you miss somebody I don't know, and those little things make me happy of, like you know, like this is awesome, we're gonna enjoy it, and then a ver que pasa, yeah it's, I mean it's made us like think of everything differently.
Speaker 2:Like I think we were discussing the other day like our price to content.
Speaker 1:I don't think that's a thing. I don't think you know people that do podcasts, think about those things. But we're kind of just making it up on the spot.
Speaker 2:We're like okay, we prepared for four hours reading this book and then we took notes for another two and then we recorded for another two hours. So our price per episode was like 10 hours of our work. I don't know if that's a term, but like we're starting to think differently in a way yeah and I think, like even right now I'm looking at your hat and I'm like we're going to lose some followers. People hate the Bears Like we have 14 followers.
Speaker 1:We're going to lose 10. Oh my, hey, hey.
Speaker 3:Bears fans. Bear fans, please follow and subscribe. Show them what's up. If he's really watch, the opposite happen. Watch the opposite Watch. Watch Bear fans say that you opposite Watch. Bear fans say you know what? Just because he's wearing that hat, I don't read books, but I'm going to subscribe.
Speaker 1:So if you're in Chicago right now, please follow. He's really betting on you right now.
Speaker 3:He's going all in on Chicago. Bear down, bear down. That's hilarious.
Speaker 2:Okay, so that kind of maybe goes over the beginning and what we hope and what we're doing right now in the podcast, how we're enjoying it, but what are, like you know, looking five years ahead, or two years ahead at least. What are your future plans with the podcast, like, what do you hope to do? What do you hope to bring? Is it still up in the air? Do you have like a clear vision of what you want to do? Like, for me it's like a mix, like there's some things that I do have in mind already, but then there's other things that I like I'm open to things happening and, like changing. How about you?
Speaker 3:yeah, I think that's the beauty of anything, any art like it, you adapt to the times, right? So?
Speaker 3:do I know clearly what that looks like. No, I think we've already communicated, like off camera, like what other um things we could do to liven it up or change topic. You know matter. Like we have ideas of like the title of this podcast is called Re-Enrolled, right, if I mean? I have no doubt you understood our listeners understand why, right, it's us basically going back to school, so to speak, learning again, maybe in our own way, but with that concept I think we've talked about almost using that to our benefit, like if we're in school, like well, there's multiple classes in school and maybe we can take an economics class, we can take an art class, we can take a health class and I think can liven it up so it's not so repetitive, I think for our own sake right If we're only doing books all the time.
Speaker 3:I think it'd be. It can be exhausting longterm, yeah. So I think that's how we, I think, can adapt and try new things. And ultimately the fun thing is, you know we're going to try and see how it goes and we cannot. Our goal is to read people's comments. So if you like something, please feel free to comment below that you're liking the subject matter or you have. You know, you have an idea, shoot some ideas and maybe we can even try them out. But that's kind of something I'm thinking, you know, I would love to do. I would love to have like a custom soundboard for us. Okay, like I don't know if our wives are down, but like I would love to have our wives react like I don't know, like asco or like like I don't know, just funny things that can kind of add some spice to the episode.
Speaker 3:And what would be cool is like you had your. You have your own sound board so to speak and I have my own, and you don't know when I'm gonna like mess up your comment right, like like cap or like I don't believe you or whatever, and I think that can like add more life yeah, so there's a couple ideas I have.
Speaker 2:Um, that's pretty cool. I think you thought about the technical side of it a lot more than I have, because that's your thing. Like you are pretty good. It feels kind of one-sided because up to this point, besides preparing for the episodes and obviously contributing during the episode recording, you've done a lot of the like work of, like you know, loading up, you know downloading and uploading the the episodes to the different platforms we've been using. But I hope that over time that kind of evens out a little more and I learned that side of creating content more. That'll be good.
Speaker 2:But at the end of the day, I think I agree with you. Like we want to bring our listeners a curated list of you know different topics. They could be books, courses. You know we might even do summarizes of big ideas or you know, like you said, we might do like economy 101 or something like that, and kind of bring that to the listeners and see, uh, what, what they, what they like. Also, my end goal for the future of this podcast is to continue getting practice, like just practicing, practicing, practicing and you know, once you get the reps and seeing what happens.
Speaker 2:Like I mean I invite everyone to do this. Whatever podcaster you listen to, whatever podcast you listen to, go on spotify or youtube, whatever you use, instead of newest to oldest, do the opposite to oldest to newest and listen to the first two or three episodes and then compare it to like the newest one you've listened to. I guarantee you it's going to be a lot different. There's one exception, though, like there's some people like have been in entertainment for like their entire life, or they've been you know doing things like bigger budget and they have way bigger, or a huge budget like a team behind them and they can usually get the ball rolling, starting like from the beginning, right like they sound professional, they're gonna sound pretty good.
Speaker 2:But a lot of the podcasters that had beginnings similar to ours the first ones don't look, doesn't sound that good. They just over time, they learn and they see what works, what doesn't't work. Like maybe next week Hoy learns not to use that hat.
Speaker 2:He's like already went down man, and then, little by little, you know, we can learn and get better. And as this evolves and changes, we're going to try to, you know, hear your feedback, whatever you like, whatever you're enjoying more, and we're going to be like, hopefully, we can be that mentor that allows you to tip your toes into something new, right maybe you don't know a lot about, you know, children's books. We're going to go over a couple of them if you're interested you can read the whole thing.
Speaker 2:That's never going to replace it right, like if we go over a course, if you want to get benefit from it, like maybe download the course and take it yourself, try it, but at least listening to this will give you an idea. Oh, would I be interested in that. Maybe I haven't thought about it this way and that's. That's something that I experienced, like when I was in high school, during like sophomore, probably like prior to freshman year. If someone would ask me, like what's the course you hate the most? Like what's, like, your least favorite course, I probably would have said literature, reading English. Those would have been my ones that I didn't like.
Speaker 3:It's funny because I feel the same dude, I feel the same.
Speaker 2:It's weird, it's weird dude, but it took one good teacher. I had a good teacher in sophomore year. I remember one lesson and he was reading a book Shout them out. His name, actually, and he was like reading a book.
Speaker 3:Shout them out his name. Actually his name is mr wachlawick. I think that's his last name, wachlawick. Okay, yeah, mr wachlawick.
Speaker 2:But here's, here's something that he told the class that I always remembered, because he, we were going over a book I think it was shakespeare and he was asking questions and he, he's like, why, like, why do you say that? Like, obviously the student was giving the right answer, but he's like challenging him Like, why, like, why does it have to be that way? Like, what do you think? And basically what he? What I learned from him and he actually said is, once you read it, you own it and if you see something else, then say whatever you see in what you're reading.
Speaker 2:Right, and I think that changed English from like a science, like math, where there's a correct and wrong answer to more like a journey. Like you can go take a trip to Mount Lemmon or a mountain range and focus yourself on different things and enjoy it differently every single time. The same thing with a book. Right, you read a book at a different time of your your life. You might pay attention to different things and take different lessons, and I think that's what changed after sophomore year. Like, oh, books can be cool. Like I can take, I can read a, you know a book about a children, you know a children's book and get lessons about being an adult or a teenager. It doesn't have to be the static thing that has a yes or no, and I think after that my enjoyment for for learning and reading kind of like, began a lot more yeah, it shifted.
Speaker 3:No, yeah, I mean, it's like I feel this, I feel the same, like I think, and for me, what moved me to start reading was and I'm glad it's shifted since then as well, but it did push me to start reading was, honestly, just a sense of I didn't go to college and there was like a sense of powerlessness that I felt like. I felt like I had the potential to keep going to school and learning but I felt like, okay, just because I didn't go to college doesn't mean I can't keep learning. And I think I forced myself to read to try to just grow, and then that motivation to just try it, kind of like oh man, this is good and I really like this, and honestly, it's the same thing. I think when we think of English literature reading, we have these books in mind in school that we didn't enjoy that much but there's just so much content out there that you can relate to.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and there's a benefit too. So hopefully the curated books and lists of movies you might relate to. Maybe you've never watched or read, but maybe this little sneak peek of the conversations we have might push you to read them.
Speaker 2:So yeah, that's the. That's also like. I think in order to enjoy the podcast, you have to get rid of this idea of I don't like or I'm not good at right, like I hear that a lot like even my brother, which I think he's really smart. He'll often say, oh, I'm not good at history.
Speaker 3:I'm bad at history right.
Speaker 2:And what that does to your mind. It kind of closes it, Because you're not going to try to get better at something that you already out loud said you're bad at right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you put yourself in a box. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:So, you know, keep an open mind. Let's say you don't like children's book. Listen to a couple episodes about children's book and see, maybe you end up liking it and don't walk into the episode hating already. Like you know, maybe if you open your mind, you you'll learn something, you you'll like something and it might, you know, change the way you see an entire, you know, section of learning or literature or whatever yeah, and then communication, is that bridge right to understanding?
Speaker 3:so I think, so, I think again, yeah, I agree, like just give it open mind. And I think it surprises us. Like there's certain books that I, you know, I have like a list of books that has been just recommended to me.
Speaker 3:Like oh you should consider this book and again, I might not even like it, but I'll love to, just but I'll even like that challenge. Right, I like the challenge of like okay, I may I didn't enjoy it, but let's have a critical mindset of but what can I take out of this book? Yeah, and learn that even in the things you don't enjoy, there's always some little lessons you can pull out of it.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, yeah, okay we're getting to the to the end of our podcast or episode. Today we had a couple rapid, fun fire questions.
Speaker 3:How do you want to do this? Do I just go back to back all of them to you and then you do the opposite to me? What do you think?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Or do we go back and forth?
Speaker 2:Well, we're going to make a rapid fire when we should go one at a time, okay so yeah, I'll do you first.
Speaker 1:Okay, what's?
Speaker 3:your favorite food? Uh, favorite food. I had to choose my mom's cabeza mom's cabeza.
Speaker 2:Okay, dream travel destination um, dream travel destination.
Speaker 3:Um, I had the debate. We had a great time in italy. We'd go back to italy, but like south of italy, like rome, um, and then a little bit of greece. Now that's with my wife. If it was just sheer photography, I want to just go shoot.
Speaker 1:And, of course, my wife is invited but I would. I would go to argentina I would love to go to.
Speaker 3:Patagonia area and I saw a great documentary on I think it was Disney Plus about Pumas.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:And it just is beautiful and mesmerizing.
Speaker 2:How much would you charge for that? Because we know that National Geographic can reach out to you for $20,000. You'll go to Alaska.
Speaker 1:How much for a Puma? Hey, honestly, I'll pay it myself.
Speaker 3:As long as I they share my work, I would pay for it myself there we go okay, one word to describe yourself loud, okay do you disagree? I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1:No, I agree, I agree, okay, coffee or tea, coffee.
Speaker 3:Morning person or night owl Morning? I think I am a morning person.
Speaker 1:You are a morning person.
Speaker 3:No. I think, so I think so. I mean I didn't share this earlier. I mean this is not rapid fire. I'm sorry, but I used to work in construction, specifically carpet installing, and I'd wake up at stupid hours, at 2 30 in the morning to go to work. Whatever the case is now it like it's in my system and like, I wake up at 5, 35, every every day, basically.
Speaker 2:So maybe that explains the moodiness in the morning, like you're, like I don't want to wake up I don't I honestly, that is I'm just built this way.
Speaker 3:I Exactly it's in my code to just stand up and walk. No, honestly, I've gotten better at sleeping since I've been married, though Like there's days where I wake up at 6 or 7, 7.30. So pretty good, nice, Nice, nice.
Speaker 2:Okay, I think those were it. Those were the ones we had. Oh, those are it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, let me see. Wait, did we skip the fun facts?
Speaker 1:We skipped the fun facts.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I thought we did. But no, we'll do rapid fire.
Speaker 2:It's all good.
Speaker 3:Let's do rapid fire and then we'll go back to that. Okay, perfect. Okay, your turn. Favorite food.
Speaker 2:A good fish taco. That's my normal answer. That's like if I have $10 left in my wallet, I will have a good fish taco.
Speaker 3:That's all I have. Okay, what's the worth of a good fish taco the $10? Would you pay $10 for one really good fish taco?
Speaker 2:I would pay $20 for a really good fish taco no, you wouldn't.
Speaker 1:But it would have to be a really good fish taco.
Speaker 2:Why no, no, no, but a fish taco is not worth $20. I've never paid $20. But I'm just saying that's how much I like them. Okay, okay, let me clarify.
Speaker 3:Fish taco in Tucson, Arizona.
Speaker 1:You know your clientele Up the price Up the price Okay, I would not pay $20 for those.
Speaker 2:But if I went, to, like you know, on a vacation with you to Italy and they were selling this amazing fish taco for $20.
Speaker 3:And if there was a beautiful view, you can kind of make it valuable right.
Speaker 2:Okay, Actually I regret saying $20. $20 is a little too high. But, let's say I just got paid and I'm not looking at the bank account. A Connecticut-style lobster roll I've never had them.
Speaker 3:I've heard those are delicious. I've never had them. I've heard those are delicious. I've never had it, bro, they're so simple.
Speaker 2:It's literally just good bread, good lobster and good butter and seasonings. It's amazing, it's out of this world, but it is pretty pricey for what you're getting. Okay, yeah, you won't get full with one, you'll just taste it and it'll be like $35, $40.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Yeah, crazy, but that's only every once in a while.
Speaker 3:So, as you can see, friends, those who are listening to us, I'm the poor guy.
Speaker 2:He's the bougie guy, no, no. We just divide our budget differently. My food budget takes over my clothing budget, my vacation budget, my car budget. Everything else, I love it. Okay, uh, dream travel destination. This is gonna sound crazy because you might say I've been there, new york, but check this out, this is a twist new york with money.
Speaker 1:I've never been to new york with money. I've never been to New York with money. I've only been to New York poor and broke.
Speaker 2:So like if I got like someone called me hey, here's $100,000, but you're not going to get a single dollar. You have to spend the entire amount in New York. I think that would change it.
Speaker 3:I mean with those variables, wouldn't any place be amazing? No, but I think there's something about new york, the food. Yeah, are you a big city guy, carlos? I do love. Like would you live like in new york city.
Speaker 1:Like would you live there at least a summer I would, I would, actually I would, okay, okay, these are not rapid fire.
Speaker 3:What about no budget? No budget, okay, like normal, normal.
Speaker 2:Normal, I think I would love to try a relaxing vacation on an island somewhere and, honestly, the island doesn't matter where, as long as there's very little civilization. It's just my wife and I in a small. Actually, we have to land with one of those planes that lands on water.
Speaker 3:Dang Survivor style.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Literally no one knows who we are. We just land there. There's very few people and none of them speak our language. That's the cheaper way, you and that language thing bro.
Speaker 3:Okay, that's kind of an inside joke, we're not going to go over that one. Okay, one word to describe yourself.
Speaker 2:Honestly, I like to say curious. I think I am curious. Even if there's something I don't agree with and they're talking about it, I'd probably be the guy that just listens and be like hmm, so I would. That's how I would describe myself maybe not everyone would agree, but I think when I was thinking about this, that's the the word I would choose man, you're just such a wise word.
Speaker 3:I'm over here saying loud like yeah, uh okay, I agree, I agree, agree. Like curious is a good answer. Okay, coffee or tea.
Speaker 2:It used to be tea. Before I got married, it was tea. Now, after I got married, it's definitely coffee. Here's the sad part, though it might not even be coffee, it might be just be sugar, like it might just be the frappes and the lattes and the caramel, like all of that. But yeah, I do find that I drink a lot more coffee than tea.
Speaker 3:Actually, I don't drink tea at all. This is how I'm going to find out what's your order at Starbucks. Like your order, not your wife's, just your Like you're by yourself. You're going to go get yourself a coffee.
Speaker 2:What do you get? I get a blonde vanilla latte, which is like the weakest bean, I think. So that kind of gives you some context. I put one pump of vanilla, two pumps of toffee nut and caramel drizzle.
Speaker 1:I might be the occasional extra caramel drizzle guy. I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, right? Because?
Speaker 3:because you, because you included a latte, right, and a latte doesn't have naturally sugar, right, if you? Yeah, you know, it's just milk, steamed milk and the double shot of espresso so I was like you said you included latte.
Speaker 2:I was like, oh, maybe he thinks latte has sugar in it, but when you add like pumps of vanilla and all that other stuff, like yeah, it makes it sugary on my defense, though, or in my defense in my defense yeah yeah, there's some people that put like more than four pumps and I I do three, sometimes I do two, sometimes I do one vanilla one uh toffee some people like end up like adding four pumps of whatever they use, so I'm not the worst one out there. I've actually seen have you seen this? I think on tiktok there's a a guy that works at dunkin donuts. Have you seen him? No, no he records the craziest order he gets oh yeah, there's some people like great content 30, you know, teaspoons, or 30 servings of sugar, or like when they.
Speaker 2:when you look at the cup, the cup it's a large cup. More than three-quarters of it is full with sugar, whether it's plain sugar or syrups or caramel or something, man, we're so addicted to sugar, bro.
Speaker 3:That's wild Crazy. No no, yeah, wow, yeah, no, no. Well, if you just go to your local Starbucks, just ask for the Carlos, They'll know what it is.
Speaker 1:Trying to die quick.
Speaker 3:Special. Okay, so morning person or night person, night owl.
Speaker 2:I feel like this is rapid fire, but I'm not going to give any straight answers to anything, because here's my answer to that one I am cursed to be a night owl that wants to be a morning person. Oh my gosh, it is my goal to be a morning person. Oh my gosh, it is my goal to become a morning person. Like you, I'm like uncommitted night owl, like because I don't enjoy staying up late, but I naturally tend to like yeah, right now it's almost 10 and I'm not feeling sleepy at all, like some people are cranky if they're not asleep by nine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, I think you're a bad combo, though, because you're both. You go to sleep late and you wake up early.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and the thing is, I've gotten better at that, but still I am pretty bad too. Like yeah, um, hey, wait, is it? Is lexi more of a morning person, or no? Is she also like night owl, like you?
Speaker 2:she's more of a morning person yeah, when I first got married she was really a lot more of a morning person. She would wake up at like a 5, 30 yeah, she should go work out, right at that time now I think she's gone, become a little more flexible, because we go to sleep late, right. So it wasn't sustainable and she works out after, but before, like when she had the schedule of working out before work she would wake up really, really early yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3:Um, I think that's basically it. Oh, you want to go back to the fun fact you? Know, yeah, we'll do just. Yeah, we'll just knock it out, why not? Yeah, we have these questions already, okay, so I already have you on the spot. So what's an interesting fact about you that most people don't know?
Speaker 2:yeah, I struggle with this one because I don't know if there's anything, at least not anything shareable, I guess but something that won't burn me. Yeah extremely afraid of needles, which you know oh, I know like it is kind of an unhealthy fear that I have.
Speaker 1:Um, but honestly, I think anyone listening to the podcast right now knows that maybe in the future they won't, but right now they probably do I have a?
Speaker 3:I have a fun fact about carlos. Oh. So I have a fun fact, my boy, oh bueno, so I have a fun fact, my boy, when I was, I think no, we both had graduated. He graduated high school.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:A record. Like it was. Like one summer he got his key stuck in his car like nine times, like he would call me and he was like bro, how do you do it so many times bro? I would love to go, bro, I just can't make it the only reason that doesn't happen anymore is because his car won't lock if it leaves a key inside that is actually a very, you know, sad fun fact about me. Okay, do you have any funny?
Speaker 2:Oh, go ahead I was going to ask you. Or you want to go with the next one Go.
Speaker 3:Yeah, let's do all of them. Let's not come out. Do you have any funny or memorable stories from our friendship?
Speaker 2:You're not going to like this one. This is is you know hashtag broke stories, or I'm sure?
Speaker 1:there's a tag on instagram for like this kind of story. Yeah, but we once took a trip. It was like a like a four-day trip.
Speaker 2:It wasn't even a short trip and we didn't rent a hotel, so we ended up traveling around seattle and basically the entire washington state, without staying in a hotel for like three nights, or at least two or three nights we slept, we didn't sleep that much, we didn't sleep well, yeah, we didn't sleep that much in the car.
Speaker 3:We didn't sleep. Well, yeah, we didn't sleep.
Speaker 2:And it's crazy.
Speaker 1:I don't even know we're bougie hobos, bro.
Speaker 3:We're traveling hobos, that's what we were. No, that was wild. I think we just assumed it was a massive city that there's going to have, there's going to be some hotel with one room available and, mind you, we were like what? 22, 21 when we went I don't remember how young.
Speaker 2:We were yeah, it was like 2017, 2018. I mean, honestly, at that time of my life I would have taken an invitation to a trip anywhere, Pretty much anywhere, Like the barrier was so low, Like you couldn't.
Speaker 3:Hey, well, even the story of how we went, you got to share that, like you already shared it. Like how did we, how did we decide to go? Do you remember?
Speaker 2:it was the cheapest ticket we could find, wasn't it?
Speaker 3:yep, that's it. We I think it was, that was. That was the only reason. I think that's why we didn't book a hotel either is that we were just like kind of like overwhelmed with our little stresses at that age. Yeah, and we're like bro, let's just get out of town.
Speaker 3:Let's like turn our phone on airplane mode and just get out of here for a little bit, and then we just looked on google matt or google flights and we just found the cheapest flight from phoenix, and it was to bellingham, washington, which, for those who are from there, shout out to you guys, it's a small spirit, right, and we flew spirit. Yeah, we did.
Speaker 2:We risked our lives actually on our flight back they had trouble getting us out right, like I think they packed it, think they overpacked it or something Overbooked it. Yeah, Overbooked, yeah. So they started giving offers like we'll offer you a $400 credit, yeah.
Speaker 1:My boy. He was about to take the credit at $1,000.
Speaker 3:I was like I'm down bro. I don't know I'm going to sleep one more night in a car for that.
Speaker 2:But we decided to just do it like just leave, Because we knew that someone was going to accept at some point and I think they did, but once we left, there was an employee from the airport literally hammering something on the plane's wall.
Speaker 1:Oh, remember that. Did you see that?
Speaker 3:Remember that. Man, dish, dish, dish, dish. Yeah, we were like we're about to die, we're about to go out. That was a funny, that's a great story. It's a great story. Um, let's see, I think that's it.
Speaker 2:Those two questions, right yeah, so that's your turn. What is an interesting fact about you that most people don't know?
Speaker 3:I extremely dislike without using the word hate reality tv, specifically the reality tv. That's like drama related. I don't know why lynette's found some tiktoker. My mother-in-law shout out to yasmine she's probably listening. Uh, she found this tiktok. That said that what an empath is, and apparently that's. She thinks I'm an empath. I don't remember exactly what that means. Long story short. I take on people's stresses. So when I watch reality TV like me, estreso bro, like I want to solve their problems or something, and I'm like and I hate it, I cringe. So that's a dumb, interesting fact about me.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 3:I mean, you know this, I had also had a hot dog stand in Mexico for like almost a year.
Speaker 2:That is a really cool fun fact about Hawaii. Yeah.
Speaker 3:So I had a, and that's something I would. I would be willing to do out here if I had to, in Mexico City, cause there's a lot of fun. So yeah, those are my two interesting facts.
Speaker 2:Those are pretty good ones. Okay, how about you on the funny or memorable stories about your from our friendship? Funny or memorable stories from our friendship, I think.
Speaker 3:Oh, I'm not sure if I mentioned it before in other episodes, but what I wrote down was that this wasn't our first project together. Rip to culturedcom, which was a website that we both put money into and we wanted to become the next Zuckerberg or something. It was a great concept and, funny enough, I would argue, it's the cousin no, I would argue, re-enrolled is the child of that website, because the whole premise of that website was we have so much access to information nowadays, but I think young people less and less want to learn, so the concept was to get cultured Again. Super cheesy now looking back about it. The name Terrible, but people would go in and learn based on the Google Maps of an area in a fun, enjoyable way.
Speaker 2:But we've been kind of paving the way for this though, because, like everyone says, that most business owners fail the first time around, so we had to throw a couple failures. We had to, like you know, pave the way in some way. So hopefully this makes it you know hopefully I think that that's just what you have to do you gotta do what you gotta do.
Speaker 3:Um, I think that that's the story I wrote down and I wrote down again here about the you getting your key stuck in your car, but I thought it was hilarious, but I already shared it a little bit earlier. Um but, yeah, that was kind of an intro to us guys. Uh, again, if this is longer than you expected, thank you for those who stayed on. Any last words, carlos?
Speaker 2:I mean the usual stuff you know hit, follow like, click the or smash the like button. Actually, Smash. And you know, I think as we get more views, we're going to start upgrading stuff, like if you don't like the quality of the video, you just keep watching, maybe we'll get higher quality cameras, better computers. You know, little by little, with your support.
Speaker 3:And you know just give it time.
Speaker 2:If you sort of enjoy listening to the episode. We're going to hopefully be here in six months or a year, so just continue listening and, you know, don't forget to comment, maybe suggest something.
Speaker 3:And if you happen to win, get our attention.
Speaker 2:We might feature you in a video.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly. Well, thanks for all our listeners and, yeah, just stick around. Hopefully you enjoyed this. A little bit more insight into both our minds, and no doubt there's many stories that Carlos and I will share throughout the podcast, so stay tuned and, as always, stay curious.
Speaker 2:And that wraps up our discussion for this episode. We hope you enjoyed diving into this topic as much as we did. If you found value in our conversation, don't forget to subscribe and leave us a review.
Speaker 3:And share this episode with your friends and anyone else who loves to learn.
Speaker 2:We've got more exciting topics coming up, so stay tuned.
Speaker 3:Thanks for joining us on Re-Enrolled. Until next time, keep learning and stay curious.
