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#6 Lewis Hamilton: Mastering the Mindset of a Champion
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What if you could harness the mindset of a champion to overcome your own challenges and reach new heights of success? Join us as we explore the phenomenal journey of Lewis Hamilton, the record-breaking Formula One driver whose story extends far beyond the racetrack. This episode promises not just a celebration of his recent Silverstone Grand Prix victory, but a deep dive into the mental frameworks that have powered his unprecedented achievements. We’ll uncover how Hamilton's Masterclass deviates from the usual technical focus of racing, offering invaluable lessons on developing a winning mindset, resilience, and an unwavering belief in one's potential.
We take you through the inspiring narrative of Hamilton's rise, spotlighting the pivotal role his father played in his early career. From the sacrifices made to the challenges faced, you'll hear about the moments that shaped Hamilton into the champion he is today. Discover the psychological significance of Hamilton's helmet as more than just protective gear—it’s a symbol of his strength and focus. Through his story, we explore broader themes like the necessity of self-analysis, embracing failure, and using setbacks as catalysts for growth and improvement.
Our journey with Hamilton doesn't stop at racing. We venture into the power of setting high, audacious goals and balancing ambition with the joy of the journey. Drawing parallels with other icons like Muhammad Ali, this episode underscores the importance of internal motivation, diverse interests, and maintaining self-belief. Tune in for practical advice on finding your passion, pushing through obstacles, and continually striving for excellence, all inspired by the extraordinary life and mindset of Lewis Hamilton.
so this is a little different man. What'd you think? What'd you think of it?
Speaker 2:I I liked it. I thought it was a nice change of pace. We did a master class this week of lewis hamilton. He teaches a winning mindset and uh, actually what's cool is that today, when we're recording this, lewis actually won the Grand Prix today in England.
Speaker 1:That is awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he won today in Silverstone. I mean, most people that are around pop culture know who Lewis Hamilton is. He is, at this point point, probably the best driver ever in racing. Formula one um, again, don't quote me on this, I'm not a professional analyst. Formula one news um, I I actually started. Did you ever have you seen any races? Have you seen formula one?
Speaker 1:at all, not enough. I mean to be honest with you. I've seen clips of formula one, um, which was that's why it was an interesting pick that you, that you wanted to do. Lewis hamilton obviously he's a top tier athlete, which is cool like I would learn about any sport, like when you're learning about the top tier athlete but learning his story was really interesting because I think, even if I if I don't follow formula one, I could draw a lot of lessons from him.
Speaker 1:I wanted to ask you what you thought like how that conversation went with Masterclass and Lewis Hamilton. You know, because Masterclass goes around and looking for people that do excel in certain areas.
Speaker 1:Like you know, if you cook very well, you might get a call from them or your team. Hey, you want to do a Masterclass with us. But how cool was it that they called him up? And he's like what do you do? Well, class with us. But how cool was it that, like they call them up and he's like what do you? Well, you could teach us how to do formula one. He's like no, that's not really what I do. What I do is what I I win.
Speaker 2:That's what I want to teach I didn't even connect that point, but you're right. Like, what are you teaching? Oh, I'm a winner, I'll teach you how to win dang. That's pretty. That's pretty legit. No, I recommend first of all, shout out to Huab. So Huab, he's the one that got me into Formula One. Huab is one of our friends. Shout out to him because he got me into Formula One when we were roommates. At the end of when I was about to get married, we were like the last six months I started watching Formula One because of him. You'd wake up early or super late, you'd watch it.
Speaker 2:But, then Netflix brought out the documentary Drive to Survive and those man, they did a great job. I will say that now the newest seasons are not that good, but the first couple seasons they did a great job in creating a narrative in the racing, because, as though, just turning onto the tv and watching them race, unless you completely understand the sport, you, there's not a lot of drama for you, you're just like, okay, well, yeah, they're running around this circuit for over two hours. I mean it's intense, yeah, but there's not a narrative for you, like, for example, in soccer, to really enjoy soccer, you need a team, right? You got to know the team. Who are the players like, who's your favorite?
Speaker 2:That adds more like enjoyment. So with Formula One, that drive to survive, it added that spice for me to like. Okay, I know who the drivers are, you know what teams have bigger budgets and this or that, and it just added a lot. So definitely recommend that show if you haven't seen it, especially the first couple seasons. Um, they get. They get not as good with time, but um, but yeah.
Speaker 2:So we're talking about lewis hamilton. He teaches a winning mindset, which is pretty awesome. I I think I really enjoyed this because again for myself, I was aware of again who lewis hamilton is. I've been watching formula one for like maybe the past three and a half years, probably probably covid, to now. Um, I mean, at the time he was just winning everything, so like I knew who he was, like he was the guy to beat um, but I didn't know any of his story really, like besides, whatever was shared during the live coverage of the of the race, that's all I knew. So this uh kind of made me appreciate him a little bit more, even though I always can acknowledge an amazing athlete. But it adds a lot more validity to all his winning right because he didn't have an easy route, so to speak, or the conventional route that a lot of these formula one drivers have, so that was cool to see so uh maybe you can get.
Speaker 2:You want to get started with it, like do you have a?
Speaker 1:yeah, I mean, one of the things that I would want to introduce or kind of start with is who he is or where he came from. Right, because I think you're right.
Speaker 1:With Formula One, as well as with other sports that you're not naturally into, it's usually just, I mean we could say, ignorance, right, you don't understand. You don't know what it takes to be in this competition. You don't know what's between the teams, you know how long of a history they have, you know, like, when you see Real Madrid versus Barcelona in soccer, you kind of know of that competition between the two teams because you love soccer. Well, that same thing is at play with these brands and Mercedes and all these other Ferrari. So when you get into that, I think you can really enjoy it and you know, know.
Speaker 1:To understand lewis hamilton and his winning mindset, you need to begin with, you know him being a little kid, right?
Speaker 1:He, he, he said something interesting.
Speaker 1:He said he didn't like school but early on, when he his dad, you know bottom of go-kart started doing very well competing with people that were much older than him and they became kind of like his escape, right when he was in between, inside of a race with the helmet on, he wasn't, you know, a young kid of color in the uk, which, predominantly there, there's no kids of color, there's less. At least that that's the impression you're getting through through um listening to his story. At least in his schools he was different, you know, and he stood out. But when he was racing with that helmet on it was like his escape pod and he, he just became someone else. And I think when you see those beginnings and then you you see where he ended up, you can like be like oh wow, this is such a cool story. And then if you're watching him race, you're not just going for a country or you're going for a person, like I want this guy to win, like I want him to do well yeah, and his story was fascinating to me.
Speaker 2:Something I didn't know was that he he started with racing remote control cars and I thought that was like interesting because like it was like a like a cousin, so to speak, of what he ultimately ended up doing. Right, it's still racing, yeah, but he said that his dad noticed his interest and his skill and his dad started working four jobs to support this dream. So I was gonna ask you, because I thought it was interesting that you know his dad noticed his skills, how good he was and how much he loved it. So then he basically fed the fire. His dad tried his best to feed this fire, yeah. So I want to ask you like, do you think that all children have something they truly are interested in? Or do you think Lewis was like a unique talent that was like nurtured in this specific way? Or do you think everyone has something that they're just really love and good at?
Speaker 1:You know what? I think you have to give a shout out to his dad. He did a great job, right? Because he didn't say oh, you're going to be a Formula One racer, that's not how it started. He didn't put on this dream on him. And this pressure of this is what you're going to become, because I wanted to become this and now you're going to do it. He didn't do that.
Speaker 1:It started with something that probably all of us experienced, no matter. You know our childhood, I hope. We got to play with cars. We got to play with, you know, eventually, maybe a cousin of ours or somewhere, maybe we had a remote control car. But then his dad noticed oh, he has great eye to hand coordination. All that could translate to a couple of different things, but you know, I'm gonna get him a go-kart. He seems to be enjoying this. And then, when he got into the go-kart, that's when he saw, oh, wow, this could be something else. And he ended up spending a lot of money because, I mean, he makes it a point to let us know that f1 is not an, it's not a cheap sport, it's not like soccer or some other sports that you can just play with the ball.
Speaker 1:It is very expensive to participate in these competitions and you know, eventually he got a sponsorship, but that wasn't the case from the beginning.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think that speaks to both his dad right of seeing not only his son's potential but believing in his dreams, cause I mean, if you really think about it, like, I don't know, we don't have children, right, but like, imagine your child, like no, like I really love this and I want to pursue formula one. Let's say, at some point that conversation was the case, maybe not immediately, but at some point. Now, what do you do as a dad? Right, like, especially in his case that you know, racism was prominent and it's not a cheap sport, it's not. Like. Like, for example, let's say, we had a son and he wants to say or a daughter that wants to play soccer.
Speaker 2:That's a little. It's still expensive, actually, but not as expensive as investing in a gold card and fixing that up. Mechanics, um, you know, you crash it, you gotta fix it every time. Like that's a lot of money. So his dad worked really hard, right, working four jobs to support this dream. That that speaks volumes to me because, like a lot of parents, parents, you know, they because of what society deems as a normal pathway, right?
Speaker 2:Oh, like go to college, do this. You know they could hear their children's dreams, even though you can see their talent, and maybe like hold back because maybe fear of failure for whatever reason.
Speaker 1:So it was pretty impressive yeah, I mean, what's unique about this is I think it's how they say you gotta play the cards you're dealt. He wasn't dealt. The perfect card, the perfect deck, you know the perfect hand. We could say yeah, yeah, right he didn't have the money for this to be something comfortable. Like his dad, make a lot, made a lot of sacrifices in order for him to be, able to raise and compete. But he matched that effort. He never took it for granted. He worked really hard.
Speaker 1:His dad made him work really hard I think he mentioned that he never got out of bed after 7 am. He was always doing something, working on either his mindset, his knowledge or his fitness. He really made this a great goal fitness like he. He really made this, you know, a great goal and I think he also explains that he is aware that not everyone had that father figure that he had, that was kind of there backing him up and supporting him in his dream and his passion. A lot of kids sadly don't have that and as I think that's one thing that's unique, you know, as you get to the later episodes in his, in his masterclass, where he used kind of see his heart and how much he cares about the young generations like he goes back and has foundations and he tries to help young kids, especially those that come from, you know, unfortunate backgrounds where they struggle with something that makes him maybe different. He tries to help them have some role model.
Speaker 2:Like he becomes that like, instead of just, oh, I made it, I made it, I'm good, I'm out, like that's not me anymore, I'm not someone that's struggling or wanting to achieve a dream, he still remembers that he could have, you know, things would have played out differently, he could have never made it anywhere like in f1 especially yeah, and that's the thing like I mean, we just talked about, like our last episode, about um, about like on the psychology of money, right, like how, just like a lot of variables out of people's controls work for them or against them, and in lewis's case, like there were a lot of things against his circumstance, but he did have a really hard-working father figure who is willing to support his dream and help him.
Speaker 2:But what did lewis have to do? Well, take advantage of that father figure and learn from him and be dedicated, right, because it is a I mean, it's a lifestyle. Like it's, it's your life now, like it's racing is your life. Yeah, um, and and you can take off your hat and like respect that I wanted to ask you, though like do you think his dad, do you think it was his whole motivation, was just love, or do you think because his dad was a mechanic, do you think this was like maybe even his dream a little bit? And once he saw that his son was interested, he was like awesome, let me just live through him, like vicariously, vicariously, vicariously Through him, you know.
Speaker 1:I mean we don't in all the episodes. I don't see, I don't get to know his dad that much.
Speaker 2:All I see is some of the decisions he made, so I don't know.
Speaker 1:Maybe he was interested in F1 growing up, but it seemed like his dad was a great motivator, like someone backing him up. But I always get the sense that the one that really wanted this was Luis. He was the one that wanted to be. As a matter of fact, I think there was after like a tough race, under the episodes where he discussed failure.
Speaker 1:He mentions that it was a pretty tough moment in his young career and he was considering to give up, and even his dad told him that he was okay for him to give up and he went on a long run, you know, pushed farther than he'd ever pushed, and then that's when he, kind of like, learned maybe I've been holding back, like maybe I haven't been trying as much as I could be, and you know, it propelled his career even more forward. So I don don't know. I think in this, I think that does happen a lot, but I think in this case, lewis Hamilton is the one that actually wanted it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I probably agree, I think. I mean there's probably always going to be something that you're just like super happy that your son or daughter is happy and pursuing their dreams, and maybe that you couldn't right, but whatever, that dream was right. But just seeing that you could help your son or daughter achieve that dream is beautiful. You mentioned a little bit earlier about how Lewis mentioned that when he put on his helmet he compared it as a cape and he became unstoppable. Do you think that's like a normal circumstance that we use like external things to motivate us or give us power? Do you think that's common? Or do you think Lewis was able just to, because of his circumstance, use this helmet as that shield to just focus on racing?
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I think, and actually that's what I wanted to discuss. Next, because I want to take this beyond just F1, right, if you are interested in this masterclass and you want to get the subscription, it's not just if you're interested in F1. It's not because you're like Lewis Hamilton and you can listen to this. Whatever it is that you like to do. If you like to play tennis for fun, if you like to play help you or propel your desire or whatever it is. It could be your career, it could be just some your hobby into that next level of where you start getting some wins, we could say, right, yeah.
Speaker 1:And I think when in the episode where he says at one with the machine, he explained something that I never knew like an f1 car is different than a car. Like an f1 is tailored towards him. It's like when you get a tailored suit, that that's what that is like. Every single piece of this machine is for him and it's helping him. You know his size and he just shapes his environment in order to succeed more. And I think when he talks about you know, like I think you mentioned this point of the cape where he escaped it's going to be very different for everyone, right? Someone that loves writing, maybe that's their escape, the time that they're just journaling and then just writing their thoughts down and doing that, and it helps them avoid kind of what's going on around them and that's going to help them a lot. To someone else it could be running like I know people that can run 10, 12, 13 miles by accident like they just wake up one day that's not me, that's not my space.
Speaker 2:They just wake up and five miles away from their house, like how do I think?
Speaker 1:I think it is important and, you know, essential for parents and even kids to find whatever they do enjoy doing and it sounds very cliche, you know everyone says find your passion. I think it could be even like avoid finding your passion, but just find something that you enjoy doing, like or, yeah, like in his case, he enjoyed winning, like he enjoyed winning these race cars and he found out that he was great at it and he kept adding to that I just enjoy being amazing.
Speaker 1:I enjoy being amazing and for everyone's different, but if you find that you can get in in in that zone you know he says that top athletes getting into this zone where, like everything just kind of flows, the senses are heightened and they can see everything going around, and they can, they just they do great stuff and I mean I think I think that's one of the lessons that we can get if we're trying to win more is like find out what we like. You know, if I tried to do f1, I'll probably give up way before lewis hamilton because I probably don't like it enough. Right, yeah, same with everyone that's listening like there must be something that you enjoy enough where you can take the beat downs, because, I mean, he said it, failure is 100% necessary for greatness.
Speaker 2:Whatever journey you're taking on.
Speaker 1:You're going to end up failing, and if you don't like it, you're going to give up. At that point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's such an awesome quote. And he does give advice, though, because, like, it's easy for us to say, oh yeah, like you mentioned, it's cliche, oh yeah, find your passion, find what you enjoy. But he gives advice of like, oh, how do you find what you enjoy? And again, it's such a simple advice. It's just to try everything, try anything. You tried it once and you were happy in that moment. Try a little bit more, commit a little bit more, so try different things until you stumble upon something that you don't mind failing at. I think that's the key, right, like you mentioned that, because that that is. That was such. That was like my favorite quote. Like how the the importance of failure in progression and having a winning mindset, um yeah, which sounds counterintuitive, right, like he's gonna teach you how to win.
Speaker 1:Like I don't want to fail, like who wants to fail. Yeah, if you actually want to win, you are gonna face failure, because the only way to not fail is if you, if you're only trying something that you're already good at, and you're only trying it on a very surface level. Because even if you're good at playing the guitar, let's say, you're naturally talented, you're better than most people. If you actually, you know, look around, you're gonna find someone that's better than you, like you are. So the only way to not fail, to not lose a competition, to not lose a talent show, it's to only compete with people that you know are not going to be better than you. But what's the fun of that?
Speaker 2:like you, you're never actually going to grow and become better at whatever it is that you want to do yeah, and I think that that was one of the keys that you mentioned, like, not only to challenge yourself, but put yourself in a room where people challenge yourself, challenge you as well, and I think that's the key with even formula one because, like, everyone wants to win everyone's all these amazing athletes but that pushes everybody right, even though you want to beat each other.
Speaker 2:But the reality that someone wants to beat you motivates you like want to beat each other, but the reality that someone wants to beat you motivates you like. Well, to beat this person behind me, I have to wake up earlier, I have to exercise more, I got to better my health, whatever, right, whatever these variables are to better yourself. But but let's say you didn't have competition and then it was like you mentioned, it was just easy. You're just in this room where you just keep winning. It's like playing soccer with like once you're an adult, with like 10 year olds, like you know, you can beat them. Yeah, you can beat them, but what satisfaction is there to beat these kids? Like there isn't, there isn't really satisfaction.
Speaker 1:Another two things I take from this episode because I think this was probably the biggest episode for me in this master class is episode number five on failure, where he he says that he constantly analyzes his failures and I feel that's a very uncomfortable thing to do like and he has, you know, he's in a unique position where he has a videotape, you know, recording of exactly where he went wrong.
Speaker 1:He probably missed a couple seconds here, a couple seconds there and all that added up to him being, instead of first place, maybe third place or fifth place. And he's constantly analyzing them and you know, looking at the little details and then what he could improve, what he could do better next time. Do you feel like that's where most people go wrong when they, let's say, whatever they're pursuing whether it's acting or podcasting or whatever it is that they want to do it's uncomfortable to like, go over your own work and go over maybe your failures. Do you feel like that's a common habit or you think that's that's probably like something unique to him in this sport, or like people in f1? Like, what do you think about that?
Speaker 2:I think it's a unique quality for winners for winners.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like no, that's what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like if like those who were were amazing and great, like he mentioned. Like that, failure is part of greatness is those who constantly said this isn't good enough and I can be better. But to know how to be better is to acknowledge in those mistakes that you made, and we actually talked about this pre-recording, so this can just play back right back at you. We're starting this project, this podcast, and thank you for everyone's listening, but it is uncomfortable for us, right, it's not easy to listen to yourself, but the thing is we got to listen to ourselves to see. Okay, maybe I talk too much in this area. I can better, maybe I can shorten it.
Speaker 2:I mean how can we improve if we don't self-analyze? But I do think most people don't self-analyze because by self-analyzing you're acknowledging your failure. Most people try to just move on from the failure, Like, okay, I failed, what's tomorrow? Let's try again tomorrow. But if you analyze that failure, not only can you try again tomorrow, but do 1% better than you did the day before. And if you just do that you'll eventually just be amazing yeah.
Speaker 1:What's interesting is that people seem to constantly do this with others, like when someone fails at whatever they're doing. I mean, think of the people that look at sports. I was just watching the Euro and Cop copa america a couple days back. I mean, the commentators are great at knowing what went wrong like they know exactly.
Speaker 1:They're like no but it's totally different and more difficult to do it on yourself, like if you're the one that was there, if you're the one that did something wrong. It takes a lot of honesty, a lot of you know, being humble in a way enough to say, okay, I messed up here, I could have done this better, done that better and I can improve in this area. And I think you're right. I think that's the best way you could have put it. It is something common or it is something unique to people that win. They need to be able to analyze the failure. Yeah, another thing he mentioned in this episode was enjoying it, like even if you fail. He said enjoy it like even if you didn't get the result you wanted. Okay, learn to enjoy that. Learn if you did. Yeah, if you didn't get first place but you got third, hey, enjoy that like. You can still learn from it, but learn to enjoy those, those moments as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because you can't have, like this absolute mindset of this is the only thing, because, again, it involves like happiness to a certain extent right, like only if I reach this goal then I will be happy. And that's not what he's pushing here. He's saying yeah, he saying to be a winner you've got to enjoy the journey, but by enjoying the journey. It's going to be difficult and acknowledging those difficulties will get you to that goal.
Speaker 2:And he just had so many interesting points to think about and just to your point, or something to add that you mentioned a little bit earlier, was that I think a lot of people it's easier to judge others because I feel like it's their way to making themselves feel good.
Speaker 2:I think it says more about themselves and what's actually going on in the circumstance right, because most of these commentators not to like hate on them either right, but they're, either most of them are either failed not failed, but players that didn't do amazing and that they looked for a different avenue and good for you but they're like hating on these people where that they're there, they're making it, you know, and I think it takes a lot of vulnerability to take that action right.
Speaker 2:Like taking, for example. In our case, we'll just use our example Like it's a lot of vulnerability, right, like we have friends watching us, potentially, hopefully, but it takes vulnerability because people will hate on it. It's the reality. Hate on it like why are they doing it? Yeah, yeah, yada, but again, it takes courage. It takes courage to do something you're enjoying and the only way to win is to ignore that.
Speaker 2:He gave the advice to use failure as feel. Let me look it up here Like use failure as feel and turn it into motivation for happiness, something like that. Let me see when did you write it down? Anyway, he basically says that, um, that to use this, this people's negativity right, negativity and and uh, maybe this judgment as his motivation to just keep on going, turn those negative comments as something positive. Actually, his father encouraged him, especially when he was younger, when he was getting a lot of judgment because of his race. Basically, no doubt it affected him emotionally. His dad's advice was, you know, like, show it on the track. Like don't say anything rude to them, don't fight fire with fire, but show them on the track. So I think anyone that has a goal or a passion about something and is scared of doing it like don't let the judgment of others stop you, but just prove it by action. Like let me. Okay, people are hating it now, but this podcast is gonna be amazing. You know, like we're gonna keep trying until it's good. You know I'll go see.
Speaker 1:You know that's all we can do yeah, yeah, I think that speaks to the discipline that he developed. You know, he one of his episodes is on self-discipline. In order to be an f1 driver, you need a lot of discipline. A single mistake or a lapse of focus of a couple of seconds could result in your team losing a lot of money because these cars are expensive, or you losing the race or maybe even potentially losing your life because they're traveling at really fast speeds.
Speaker 1:And self-discipline it's not just on actions, but can also be on emotions. Right, someone tells you something that you don't like. Someone says a little mean comment. It could be something that isn't even mean, but you interpret it as mean. Like he gave an example.
Speaker 1:Someone could tell you hey, why are you wearing a green shirt? Yeah, maybe it was a question, maybe you're just wondering if there's something you're celebrating or something that has to do with green, but you took it as they're making fun of your shirt and it messes with you. And then you know it. It it shows in whatever, that you're doing the same thing with us. Right? If you, if you, want to practice self-discipline, one of the areas that you need to practice it is regulating your emotions, controlling those emotional responses and not doing something out of you know he, he says a phrase stop being reactive and being more proactive. I feel like a lot of people and I think probably in his sport more than anything react to whatever is going on. He, you know, draws a line and says okay, you don't want to be reactive, you want to be proactive, you want to be looking ahead and making decisions based on that, instead of oh, this is what's happening, I'm going to react to it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, and I think this, that chapter of self-discipline, I mean he speaks about health as well. I think it's a great again if you're someone who, like myself, that is trying to be better with their health, can be like a motivating. Are they called chapters, I don't know? Section to analyze Episode.
Speaker 1:Episode yeah episode.
Speaker 2:I mean he has a specifically, he has like a vegan lifestyle and it's worked for him. But he basically encourages us to find something that works for you. But he does talk about how, how important self-discipline is to any progress with any goal you're setting. He even said he says that diet is 70% of the progress in regards to like health and and and exercise. I don't know, it's like it motivated me. Like man I gotta be better, I gotta be better. It motivated me like man I got to be better, I got to be better, I got to work on these things to better my health.
Speaker 1:Maybe, if you want to follow his practical advice, you can do what he does with sweets, did you like that?
Speaker 2:Oh bro, I love that. Yeah, I mentioned it. I wrote it down actually, but yeah, I mentioned it. He mentioned that, you know, I mean he really likes sweets, and I mean everyone. I love sweets too, like I feel, like everyone does, or, if you don't like, sweets.
Speaker 1:You like something that's not very healthy, so you try to avoid it, whatever it is, whatever you like hot cheetos. Well, for him it's sweets. So he says, like, in order to practice self-discipline, he puts a bag of sweets in his gym bag, or he always carries a bag of sweets around him, but he doesn't consume them, he doesn't let it have power over him.
Speaker 1:And then over time it becomes like, oh, it's not really, it's not really a thing. I think that's great advice for me because I feel like, even if I can be good like, for example, we've been trying to do better about not bringing sweets when we do groceries, like trying not try I should emphasize that word, try but we have been doing better about doing snacks but, man, if I go out and there's a free donut out there, eat it. I eat it.
Speaker 1:Right, it's an opportunity, and I'll never see another free donut in my life like that's it oh, that's hilarious you combine sweets with not spending money and I'm in like, yeah, but him, when he has it around him, it loses that power. And I feel like if I do that, it might. It might work for me too, like if I learn to have something around me and instead of, you know, giving into my natural impulse of, oh, I'm gonna have one, oh, I'm gonna have another one and before you know it, the bag is gone. I know that I can't have any like, it's just it's accessible.
Speaker 2:It's near me, but I'm not gonna do it yeah, I think I liked his method of all these goals he's setting. He basically just his biggest competitor was himself, so he like challenges himself, like that was like his challenge. Like I'm gonna to be better at not eating sweets, I'm going to carry these sweets but I'm going to challenge myself to not have them and I think I work. I work the same, like I think, for whatever I don't know if it's just the inner competitiveness nature in me or in us that just helps.
Speaker 2:For some reason You're like no, I don't want to lose, like not losing, like I don't know. Maybe we're prideful, I don't know what it is, but I think it would help. I think I do that. But Lynette says I have to be better at this. I have a weird habit and again, I don't recommend this habit. But I go to the gym and we go to the gym, and when I'm doing my cardio session of running, I don't drink water until I'm done running. My challenge is I have to earn my water, and it's really weird, but it motivates me, because I get really thirsty when I'm running and I'm like no, I got to make my mile. Once I get my mile, I've earned my water and it helps, though it helps me to not stop. So I think something like that can be really useful yeah, that's a funny system you have you gotta drink your water.
Speaker 2:I think you got that out of a gatorade commercial somewhere man did I probably a little nine-year-old me just being oh, you gotta earn with sweat.
Speaker 1:Right, you have to sweat before you can have the gatorade. I think that was a commercial at some point, was it?
Speaker 2:oh my gosh I did not know that, I did not know that but yeah, but it's helped me and I think he used his competitive nature for his own goal setting and yeah something that was odd.
Speaker 2:Interesting to me also is like something that you don't really hear, that commonly he he encouraged to set goals that are basically impossible to reach, and I found that really fascinating, because usually I mean I'm wrong, correct me if I'm wrong I feel like I've heard other, like TED Talk speakers or you know people who try to encourage others and motivate others. They usually recommend to have, like short-term girls, medium term goals and, if possible, long-term goals, but basically they're like set goals you could attain. And his mindset is like no, set the goal you think you can attain and set, use it as motivation to then attain it, because if you push yourself to attain this crazy goal, then maybe you'll do the extra work to actually attain it how did?
Speaker 1:you perceive that like I thought it was fascinating that he recommended that I personally think it works for him just because of already his quality of being a top athlete, right? If, yeah, you and me try to set an impossible goal. It might be discouraging, you might not even start right, it's too hard. I do think there's wisdom in both, like there's wisdom in setting short-term you know medium-term and long-term goals and realistic goals.
Speaker 1:I've heard that before. You know, set realistic goals. I do like a mix of realistic and impossible. Like, obviously I don't think using bolt is out there trying to run at the speed of light, like that. I don't think he's trying to do that. I don't think he's putting that pressure on himself. But he's probably thinking, hey, maybe I can do 100 meters in sub six seconds. I don't know, I think that's that seems impossible to me. Maybe maybe he's thinking he could do that right, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I think that's the way to achieve something like amazing. Right, because if you're looking at the roster of the fastest people that have ever run you know I'm using that example of running and you try to match that. Even succeeding is only going to be matching what they've already done. So maybe it's better to set something that has not been done, like something that seems impossible.
Speaker 1:And I think maybe that's where he's trying to get at, like maybe his I mean especially for lewis hamilton, it seems, at least of what I've learned about him this week you probably are ahead of me, you know more about him as an athlete and his you know track record. It seems like he's in a league of his own. He's competing with himself, right? There's really no one at his level like how much he's won, like, yeah, other people beat him from time to time, but his track record is probably, you know, very different. So, since he's competing with himself different. So, since he's competing with himself, he needs to look at things a lot differently than someone that probably, growing up, is training to be an f1 driver and has him as the model, like he's the goal right, like if I was trying to be a better soccer player.
Speaker 1:I could look at leonel messi and that could be an amazing goal because he's at the top right. I mean, that's more of an opinion to some people but that's an opinion.
Speaker 2:Bro sam is gonna throw a rock at you, bro. No, I, I. I see your point and I see your point. I do think again, again, just to remember what the themality of this master class is. That is, the master class is how to have a winning mindset. I do agree, though, like to have a winning mindset.
Speaker 2:A shortcut to make progress in regards to this is having these crazy goals that maybe people don't think you can achieve, because only then will you keep challenging yourself to hopefully reach that goal. But he also mentions that you know, like, just because you have this crazy goal doesn't mean that you can't also enjoy the journey of trying to get to that goal. So I do think that there's a balance. Right, like you mentioned, not to it shouldn't dissuade you from not trying at all. Right, and I think that's easy to do right, especially like let's use health, for example, like if you want to lose weight, and dissuade you from not trying at all. Right, and I think that's easy to do. Right, especially like let's use health, for example, like if you want to lose weight and you want to lose you, you have this like actor or this sports figure as your model. You're like, I want to look like him in 30 days. Well, that's probably impossible or you're gonna kill yourself.
Speaker 2:Reaching it, yeah, but but it made me. If you made it like, more broader, I don't want to look like him or her within two years or a year, then maybe it's more attainable, right, maybe it's. Maybe it's more attainable. And let's say, you don't hit it, but you try to pursue it. Man, you get pretty close. Maybe in two years you hit it, you know, yeah. But if you're, if your bar is only losing a pound and you're like, oh, I did it, you know, and then that's it, you go back with your bad eating habits, then then what good was it?
Speaker 1:really. Yeah, so talking about the winning mindset, and this is going to be going a little off the the master class itself, which is fine, right in this format. We're getting ideas from books or different.
Speaker 2:You know classes, courses and we'll see what else we come up with, but we're taking it into more applicable terms, like things that we can apply.
Speaker 1:I think, in order to have a winning mindset, it's very important to get rid of a losing mindset or a loser's mindset what do you think that is like if you had to just give a description of what some of us could get stuck, could get stuck in that losing mindset. What would it be like, based on what you've learned from the class, but also just on your experience and kind of what you, what you think?
Speaker 2:um, I mean there's like this class has multiple episodes. I think to have a losing mindset. There's probably multi, it's multifaceted. I think that the biggest thing I feel like is a losing mindset that I try to fight consistently is opinion of others. I think people having nothing's wrong with people having an opinion, and even what's the word when they give you good advice, like up-building advice what is that called Constructive?
Speaker 1:criticism.
Speaker 2:Constructive criticism Like that, I'm all for that. I think that's amazing. You should take that to get better. When people are just throwing shade at you for whatever reason and you listen to that shade or that judgment, I think that's a losing mindset Because you're allowing external people, external factors, to control your enjoyment of life. Like it's your thing, like what is someone else's opinion? Like you're the one that's going to enjoy it. Let's say you want to make an amazing sandwich, but someone says like, oh, you're never going to make it, even in their opinion. Like you're the one that's going to enjoy it. Let's say you want to make an amazing sandwich but someone says like, oh, you're never going to make it, even in their opinion. What does it matter? Like you're the one that's going to enjoy it at the end. And let's say it's not as good, but you got almost there and you enjoy it.
Speaker 2:I just feel like a lot of people that have especially creative passions and things they like to pursue, they hold themselves back because of what others think, and I think that's the biggest Do. I think it's permanent, and I'm not claiming those people are losers either. I don't want to go off to that point either, but I do think it's a losing mindset. I think if you keep on that path, you'll never reach whatever goals you're trying to reach. So I think that's probably the first one I can think of is allowing others negativity to influence your actions now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, I think you hit on a point that I wanted to touch. Right, because I think when you pay too much attention to the exterior, right, you could say, oh, I can't, and then you talk about an exterior reason. You know, you talk about something in your childhood, something that's completely outside of your control, right? Yeah, yeah, and you might have an aspect of truth in whatever statement you make. Right, I can't because I grew up poor.
Speaker 1:I can't because of this, I can't because of that, because of that, if you constantly do that you can get stuck in the, in this rhythm of life where you don't you, you're never able to win, because you don't want to risk right, you.
Speaker 2:You never lose either, you, you never.
Speaker 1:It's like you never like do something that people make fun of you for. You never like. You always play it safe, right. You're always in that mid term of you know you wanted, let's say you want to try something, but you didn't do it because this or that right, and I think that's how people get stuck in that losing mindset. And I think when you talk about, like, listening to others, it's funny how it can stop you from doing things that you never even tried, right, like yeah, it can stop you from even trying something which is already you might think, oh, it's not losing, that's just not trying.
Speaker 1:But there's always the same right like yeah, you don't even get there, like it's like, it's like not even competing, you're not even going to be able to do it.
Speaker 2:Another thing it's worse. I would argue it's worse. Yeah, because at least trying, you you know, like let's say, for example, I'm terrible at art, like I'm not good at painting, I'm not good at that, um, but let's say I've never tried it and I just assume that because people say I'm not good at art, I never try, at least trying, you can see. You can actually see, compare with yourself and see like, oh, I am my own, you know competition instead of, and I know, I know now what I feel towards certain pursuit compared to not knowing at all.
Speaker 1:You know yeah, yeah, you're right. I mean, I think that's a great point too, and I mean the second point I wanted to make to anyone listening about a losing mindset is you know, even lewis hamilton mentioned the easiest thing to do when you're doing something hard is to give up. So if you stop yourself from doing hard things or doing something you wanted to do because of what people say or whatever reason, even if you never experience failure, you're failing because you're not even trying. And yeah, you know, I think if you want to stop yourself from having that losing mindset and you want to get back to winning, you have to not give up, and I think that's the easiest. That, to me, that's the the summary of not having a mindset. And whatever you do is not giving up. Right. If you want to play golf, better, if you don't give up, you're probably going to get there. But if you give up in the beginning, you're never actually going to see it. You're never going to see the result of hard work paying off for you.
Speaker 2:And I think what you're leaning on goes a lot with what he was saying in the beginning of these episodes, where he said the importance of having role models, and one of the role models no doubt was his dad. But he also mentioned Muhammad Ali, and one of the things that I appreciated something that I've been working on for a long time is that he mentioned how he loved how Muhammad Ali always had positive affirmation, affirmative words. Like in interviews he was always going to say he was always saying I was going to win, I'm going to win, I'm going to win, I'm going to win, and I think, honestly that that's already like a headstart in the race of winning. I truly, I truly think that it's like mind over matter. You know, I like it's super cliche, but it's super true, I do.
Speaker 2:I think a lot of people hold themselves back with negative words. Like you mentioned I can't because of this, I can't because of that, even you know. Like I think that is a secret right there. Like having positive, affirmative words like this will do well. Like I'm going to ace that test, I'm going to get that job, because I think once you say I'm not good enough, once you say you know I'm not going to get that job. I'm not.
Speaker 2:You're already losing, you already you're going into you go into that interview, let's say losing, like the vibe is going to be off, you're going to, you're going to do things that somehow push you to lose. But if you go in there with a positive mindset, like no, I got this job, like why, why should I work for you guys, like you know, know, like you have this, more confidence in you and I think you reach those goals faster.
Speaker 1:So I really love that about positive words, yeah, and how self-belief is key to be a winner one of my my last thoughts I had on learning from lewis hamilton is how he seems to have a diverse range of interests, like I don't know if you notice that, yeah, that's kind of unique to him, like he likes to play tennis. He likes, like he does, fashion shows from like yeah, yeah, he also uh he likes to act. Apparently he's in the cars movie.
Speaker 2:I haven't seen that new movie, the cars 2 or cars 3 he does a voiceover for one of the cars so he said, he said he even did it in different languages too. Right like yeah exactly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's cool, and he also mentioned how he's not good at some of these things, like, for example, he he likes to sing and do the play the guitar and he's not great at those things, but he's still trying it I think you know that's, that's what's unique about him, but also like something that we can bring into our world, because, I mean, lewis Hamilton is maybe kind of we could say in a way lucky enough that what he loves to do and what he does for a living are the same thing, like his hobby and his career are the same thing For most of us.
Speaker 1:It's not right Like you and I we have work outside of this and we have other projects outside of this, but if you just do a diverse range of things, you can learn from all of those. Like, for example, this week you and I learned from f1 something that we've never done, like some haven't even seen a full raise on tv, but you at least have done that, like I haven't, yeah, and we're able to extract lessons from that. Like, the more things you do, the more you can see different lessons from a different range of you know, areas of your life. You know like you can learn some lessons from playing soccer that you might apply and it might be a little different than when you're playing basketball, but they're still gonna, you know match and help you and overall be helping you and kind of developing that ability to win if you like I saw I heard a saying once.
Speaker 2:It says always do your bed in the morning, that's your first win, even if after you walk out the door, you just get hit with life and you end up getting a lot of losses at least you got that one win where you organized your bed in the morning, yeah, yeah, no, I agree, man. I agree that that it's. It's that's why I love this project and I think that, especially now more than ever, that we're just surrounded by information. I love that we have this setting to like okay, let's talk about it. What did we learn? How can we apply it? I think that's something that we encourage all who's listening to do that. I think we're in a very much just. We're just in an eating culture. We're just consuming, consuming, consuming, but nothing is being processed, nothing. We're just listening to a million TikToks a day or videos or reels. So I love that this project is putting us to the kind of slow down and like, okay, what did we extract from this? Chew on this food and and hopefully encourage others to do the same. So, if you liked this episode and this master class of Lewis Hamilton, hopefully by the time we launch this, we'll have a link on our show notes that you guys can probably get a discount code for masterclass. Um, we truly loved it. Uh, loved a masterclass, and we'll probably do other episodes the same.
Speaker 2:In regards to lewis, we probably didn't do it justice. There's so many. There's, I think, 12 episodes. It's it's doable in a day. It's as long as a as a movie, so it's it's super doable in a day, but there's also longer ones. So, like the advice lewis hamilton was giving through this was to try everything. Master class is a good way to do that because you get to, uh, get to learn through bakers and coffee. You know coffee makers, writers, so hopefully we'll do other other um figures of different subjects in regards to masterclass. So any last closing notes in regards to Lewis Hamilton, carlos.
Speaker 1:I have nothing. I mean, I think he's a great individual. I learned about him the first time this week and I have a great admiration for some of those things he does. I think there's a lot our listeners can learn from him and we like, you're right, you're probably, we probably didn't do it full justice, but that's why you gotta, you gotta tune in, get that link, buy your own course and and listen to the full thing.
Speaker 2:yeah, and that's the thing like because, ultimately, this is, uh, our enjoyment. Right, we're doing this to learn from each other and we're not all the things that we're covering. We're not we're not like a book club that we're just going to analyze every little detail. We're just trying to find the things that we enjoyed, we resonated with and hopefully, whoever's listening is too. Actually, the closing thought he actually even mentioned this in his masterclass is that your goal is to just influence one person, like in a positive way.
Speaker 1:It shouldn't be a large amount of people. I thought that was a great point because I mean obviously Hamilton has a positive way. It shouldn't be a large amount of people. I thought that was a great point Because I mean obviously Hamilton has a wide audience, like he has a lot of millions of followers on Instagram, where he can influence those people in whatever way he chooses to.
Speaker 1:And you might think, oh, I don't have that audience, I don't have that platform where I can, you know, make a difference in people. But he mentioned, you know, like for, for example, he truly believes that being vegan is the way to go in life, even if you don't agree, even if you and I don't agree on that. He mentions that if he can just help one friend become vegan, that's a win to him. So, whether your voice covers a million people, like millions of people, or just one person, you know, use it, like you know, if you have something good to say, something encouraging, something that other people can learn from, you know why not share it?
Speaker 1:and I think that's that's another thing behind our podcast as well. Right, like when we're going over these things, our goal is to share something positive that can help you in whatever it is that you're doing.
Speaker 1:Obviously, more people the most people that are listening to this are not going to go on and have an f1 career that's not, that's not, we're not but they might get some of those lessons from an f1 driver and apply it to whatever it is that they're doing yeah, and maybe just enjoy their job better, or or maybe they set out creative goals to now reach them.
Speaker 2:You know, yeah, we. But again, if you truly want to enjoy the full scope of this class, we recommend to watch it. Um, yeah, it's really really really good. And yeah, next week we're going to also you'll probably have, we're going to do a little short podcast. We'll have two episodes releasing the following week. That includes a little snippet of how we got this podcast started, re-enrolled, maybe a little bit of who we are and we don't think we're capable of doing this, but why, why we're doing it and, um, and hopefully you guys enjoy that too. So, thank you, mom and moms that are listening, because that's probably the only people are listening thus far. We appreciate you. Uh, brothers, uh, sam sam. He sent me a message that he enjoyed it, so shout out to them and, yeah, until until next time, stay tuned.
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